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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Before creation God was invisible omnipresent Spirit. He was alone and by himself. No one existed with him so he had no need for a form. At or before the creation he formed, created, or begat a visible image of HIMSELF to manifest his presence to that which he would make.
The Logos was Gods image not the totality of Gods essence. It was the omnipresent Spirit that brought forth the Logos not the other way around.
That which was IN THE LOGOS created all things THROUGH THE LOGOS.
God himself was the Logos. God made all things alone and by himself through the Logos.
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So the logos didn't make all things, rather God made all things while sitting inside the logos? Except the logos itself, which was made by Not-The-Logos? So the Logos didn't make ALL things?
Okay, thanks for your answer. From what you said, it is clear you do not believe that "everything that was made, was made by the Word". It also seems clear you believe the Word was not "in the beginning". And that the Word was not in fact GOD. Although you then say "God Himself was the Logos" which contradicts your statements about the logos being a thing God made. So my conclusion is you are confused.
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Well if we are not under the law of Moses obviously we are not required to keep it. Its nowhere else taught in the Bible except in reference to the law of Moses.
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Like the prohibition against bestiality? Is the Third Commandment "taught in the Bible" anywhere "except in reference to the law of Moses"?
When God said He would make a new covenant, and write His laws in the hearts and minds of His people, did He mean "I will write some new laws in their hearts"? Or "I will write most of my laws in the hearts but not all"? What did He mean?
And what does this passage mean to you, especially verse 7?
Romans 8:3-9 KJV
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [5] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. [6] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [7] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. [9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
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A "Judaizer" in common discussion is one trying to bring people under the law of Moses. That is what you SEEM to be doing by teaching the Sabbath.
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So are you a judaizer because you seem to be trying to bring people under the law of Moses by teaching One God and no idolatry?