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Originally Posted by jediwill83
Meekness is having the Sword and knowing when and how to use it...remember Jesus driving out the money changers and lifting up His voice to call out sin, injustice and oppression?
Its amazing how we have been effectively spiritually nuetered by being encouraged to adopt this passive compliance to tyranny.
David said,"I look unto the hills whence cometh my help, my help cometh from the Lord"
But is that verse really taking into account the reality of the indwelling Spirit of Christ in the believer?
Look at Christ in all His aspects and personality and not just the submission to His executioners...remember...He laid His life down willingly and took it back up...thats power and extreme self control to bring about the goal of intentional death for a specific purpose....this was not victimhood...this was self sacrifice.
What does your proposed meekness accomplish in its commonly thought of definition other than martrydom which effectively limits the number of Spirit filled people that could be working as His hands and feet?
Sacrifice for the sake of sacrifice?
HIS INTENTIONAL PHYSICAL sacrifice brought life because YOURS could not...wherefore*I used wherefore because I have this fascination with seeing how many times I can get Ndavid to accuse me of bloviating in my posts, you're just collateral damage in this experiement....apologies* do you promote that MY sacrifice, which does NOT bring life, like its to be a desired for virtue?
The Earth groans not for more DEAD sons of God but MANIFESTED sons of God and if I am a co heir with Christ then I am also a son and the son to be the son in not just name only is called to do the works of his Father and apparently those works include occasionally braiding whips and turning over tables and commiting physical violence when appropriate.
Let me ask you this....who best to wield the sword?
A military and government from the kindgom of man that has NOT the spirit of God or a Spirit filled fully submitted to the will of the Father example of Christ?
Why have we delegated that power to others?
We are perfectly fine with delegating and handing that over to they that HEAVILY pervert the course of justice while muttering Romans 13 and turn around and smear someone who should be seen as a brother or sister over the lack of uniformity which is actually setting yourself as the pinnacle example of haviour and denigrating those that dont measure up.
Sometimes the Shepherd needs to tear a lamb out of the jaws of a lion...sometimes you gotta fight a bear...it is the strong desire to right wrongs, while at the same time healing the wounded.
It is a balanced, appropriate and measured response and sometimes the appropriate response is indeed...well...violent.
Hey Ndavid...let me know how my bloviating worked on your end ok?
Here to help buddy! I got lots of time to help a fellow brother out. |
Meekness is great strength.
Meekness is having the Sword and knowing when and how to use it...remember Jesus driving out the money changers and lifting up His voice to call out sin, injustice and oppression?
Can you please tell us how Jesus said to use the sword?
Why didn't Jesus use a sword to kill all those that made his house a den of thieves? Wouldn’t of that have been a great time to use the sword?
Its amazing how we have been effectively spiritually nuetered by being encouraged to adopt this passive compliance to tyranny.
It depends on the kingdom your fighting for. If your fighting for an earthly kingdom then your going to fight the way the world fights. On the other hand if your fighting for a spiritual kingdom, your going to fight spiritually.
BTW, your spiritually neutered when you have a spiritual fight and you fight it in a physical way.
T.F. Tenney said a group of Chinese nationals came to America as part of a evangelical mission. They stayed I believe for a week or two, as they were getting ready to go back to China, they were asked a question. What impressed you about America, and they answered like this, “Were surprised how American Christians do so much without God.”
Let me ask you this....who best to wield the sword?
A military and government from the kindgom of man that has NOT the spirit of God or a Spirit filled fully submitted to the will of the Father example of Christ?
Ill answer like this, If the Lord is leading you to wield the sword, then you have to do it. But remember, you cant wield the sword without blood. So, if the Lord is leading you to kill someone, then you have to do what the Lord says.
Like I said, to be like Jesus.
Were going to be led by 2 different things,
1- The Flesh
2- The Spirit
You have to decide which one is leading you, in every area off your life you have to ask yourself a question, is that the flesh or the Spirit. Look at what we have been discussing, Alcohol, Weed, Tattoos can I do any of these??? Is that the flesh or the Spirit?
You say, I’m going to fight against communism, well did you ever think, what if its Gods will this country becomes communist? As you fight against it, your fighting against God! Funny where our treasure is, we say it’s in heaven, yet we worry more about protecting this nation, instead of our spiritual home.