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Re: Free will versus reality!
But using Paul's experience as evidence doesn't work. His choice had already been made to follow God. A misunderstanding corrected is not the same thing as a person thrown off their horse who has had no previous relationship with God.
As for the actual topic at hand... I think I know where I stand on that, but I don't have specific scriptures to provide. I've never really thought about it before.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
The point would be Yeshua appeared to Paul so he might believe. He called him to believe. No one can be saved unless they are drawn by the Father. If its true our will is free how is it they cannot come to Yeshua unless he draws them? Why couldnt one simply WILL to be saved?
Because salvation is NOT by the will of man but of the will of God.
12: But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:12-13
No one can will to be saved. It must be given to them.
16: So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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