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Old 10-13-2008, 04:15 PM
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Re: Free will versus reality!

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Originally Posted by nahkoe View Post
Ok, so I'm laughing. This is hard to say without looking really funny. Let's try again.

Paul=passionately pursuing a relationship with Yahveh.

Paul=therefore opposed to anything that he felt was against the law of Yahveh.

Yeshua=Yahveh.

Yahveh made sure Paul got this....in quite proper, spectacular, and uncertain terms.

Paul still had free will. But why would he turn away from Yahveh, his God, whom he passionately loved and served? He could have still turned away from Yeshua, but it would have meant turning away from Yahveh.

That's better. There were too many Yahveh's and Yeshua's the other way...it was a tongue twister.
The point would be Yeshua appeared to Paul so he might believe. He called him to believe. No one can be saved unless they are drawn by the Father. If its true our will is free how is it they cannot come to Yeshua unless he draws them? Why couldnt one simply WILL to be saved?

Because salvation is NOT by the will of man but of the will of God.

12: But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:12-13

No one can will to be saved. It must be given to them.

16: So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Romans 9:16
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