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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm seriously starting to suspect that you are intentionally being whacko to prove a point. You ignore SO many obvious absolute facts that I'm getting suspicious. Like yesterday, you did it again and you've done it before several times...you just blatantly misquote me and then make a point with the misquote. And the NLT/paraphrase thing. And denying the existence of internet"dirt" on other AI contestants, and if I dig, I could probably find more complete denials of fact. It just doesn't add up.

I corrected the "excrement" statement. It wasn't blatant, it was unintentional and was corrected immediately when I saw the error.

The NLT/paraphrase thing is your problem. I posted a link directly to the NLT website which states they used paraphrase with the new bible. Don't complain to me about what their website says, write them. You want me to get their contact info for you?

Your "dirt" on Danny -- some dumb letter written by an "annonymous" person who spends most of the letter bashing Danny's church and all of one paragraph, or 3 sentences, complaining about Danny's leadership. Oh, and yah there was one very, very brief mention that he flirted with the girls on the worship team.

When I pointed this out you suddenly developed the urge to retract your statments and not want to go further with it.

As for Kris, you make a baseless statement on some allegation. No source, no proof, nothing.

If anything doesn't add up, it's these baseless accusations against Danny and Kris, which you even admitted to bringing up as a way to deflect criticism of your mancrush Adam Lambert ... then you stated regret for doing so.

Originally Posted by notofworks

I found one that I hadn't seen before and it's from a former church member. I'll send it to you by PM. I'm not gonna post it. If you wanna find more, you can dig yourself. It's been all over the internet. In retrospect, I wish I hadn't said anything. I was attempting to make a point that Adam wasn't the only one with rumored moral issues and in the process, I mentioned Danny's rumors. I regret that.

Originally Posted by notofworks

I did some more looking even though I said I wouldn't and found more stuff, but I'm gonna just back out at this point. I'll retract.

In the attempt to make a point in Adam's defense, I referenced rumors about Danny. "Never tear someone else down to build someone up." I broke that principle. And the truth is, I really don't care if the stuff about Danny is true and the same is true with Adam.

I'm just tired of Adam's name being drug through the mud. The truth is, we really don't know any of these people. Serial killers have been on church boards, so what do we really know about anyone. So I just like to listen to them and enjoy them.

Adam can be anything he wants to be as well as Danny. There was even dirt on Kris cooperating with the show to suppress TV time for his wife in order to get the teeny-girl vote. It all gets ridiculous.

So if you're not satisfied with what you see on the internet, that's fine. I'm wrong. I retract.

Originally Posted by notofworks

How in this great big world can you say that Aquila prayed a prayer FOR gay rights and abortion???? Do you misplace your reading glasses often or just enjoy twisting, or.....I don't know. What's the deal?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Heavenly Father,

I pray for our president Obama. I know that he supports equal representation and rights under the law that allows gays to marry. I pray that his intentions are pure and in favor of freedom, even if it be freedoms I disagree with. I pray that those who take this freedom find happiness, but ultimately I pray they find you.

I know that he supports equal representation and rights under the law that allows gays to marry.

Pretty straight forward ...

I pray that his intentions are pure and in favor of freedom, even if it be freedoms I disagree with.

Intentions to support gay rights and marriage. There is an added "even if it be freedoms I disagree with."

I pray that those who take this freedom find happiness, but ultimately I pray they find you.

Here's the kicker. Praying those who do have gay rights and marriage are happy and "find You [God]."

It's a gay friendly prayer. No mention of right or wrong. Very ambiguous, politically correct.

Father, I know Obama believes that a woman's body isn't property of the United States Government and that a woman should have a right to choose.

Right to choose? Not the property of the US Gov't, sure. But she does belong to God. The choice was made before the moment of conception, when she committed the act. After that, it's no longer a choice.

I pray that his motives are pure and truly are concerned with the rights and welfare of women. I also pray that those who he empowers choose life.

It ends on a nice note, prayer that they choose life. But it's still a morally ambiguous prayer that says nothing of right and wrong, and even states emphatically that the woman should have a right to choose.

I stand by my analysis. I didn't twist or misquote. It's there. At best it's a politically correct, morally ambiguous prayer. No right or wrong. It's okay as long as the intention is pure.

Makes me want to