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Originally Posted by Kutless
Before I comment on this I want to say to PP thanks for being open for discussion. I believe us lowly saints are worthy of much more than the one word responses. Some of which I have rec'd of late. HERE. DO AS I SAY DO is done. I also want to extend the same to Daniel. If I've missed you, sorry.
James 5:14-15 in my assesment has little to do with "touch" and much to do with "prayer" If its touch then how much different is it from the magic hair?
Speaking a word still lends to the notion that there is some conduit necessary for the miraculous.
The last reference is the most important. God heals because, 1. he can 2.he wants to. Can I blame my mother's lack of faith for her not getting healed of her deafness? She had hands laid on her many times. She's been in his presence many times. She's had words spoken over her many times. IN fact my former pastor told me it was to do with her having some "spirit" in her. HOGWASH! I believe God can and does heal. Why would anybody on the "witnessing the miraculous" thread have any reason to lie to me.
Our touching, words or faith has nothing to do with it. God heals to build faith not justify it.
If anybody cares to address the possibility that the "gifts" were medical knowledge given in a time when it was few and far between. |
It's not that a conduit is necessary, it is that this is God's way of doing things sometimes. Remember... we are talking about spiritual gifting. God imparts supernatural gifts to heal and work miracles. He imparts these gifts to imperfect people. So yes, sometimes we are the conduits by which God chooses to move. That, my friend, is bible.
If our faith, touch, and words have nothing to do with it - why are we commanded to speak to mountains, lay hands on the sick, and please God through our faith? Is God just playing mind games with us? I think not.
The bottom line is this is what He chooses. We can argue about all sorts of things and why they are necessary, but God stands resolute in all of our questioning waiting for us to realize that His good stuff comes to those who simply trust and obey His words and will.