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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Sorry, I was called away for a moment. Consider the following. Do you agree with these two paragraphs?
The gift of healings refers to supernatural healing without human aid; it is a special gift to pray for specific diseases.
Healing can come through the touch of faith ( James 5:14-15); by speaking the word of faith ( Luke 7:1-10); or by the presence of God being manifested ( Mark 6:56; Acts 19:11-12).
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Before I comment on this I want to say to PP thanks for being open for discussion. I believe us lowly saints are worthy of much more than the one word responses. Some of which I have rec'd of late. HERE. DO AS I SAY DO is done. I also want to extend the same to Daniel. If I've missed you, sorry.
James 5:14-15 in my assesment has little to do with "touch" and much to do with "prayer" If its touch then how much different is it from the magic hair?
Speaking a word still lends to the notion that there is some conduit necessary for the miraculous.
The last reference is the most important. God heals because, 1. he can 2.he wants to. Can I blame my mother's lack of faith for her not getting healed of her deafness? She had hands laid on her many times. She's been in his presence many times. She's had words spoken over her many times. IN fact my former pastor told me it was to do with her having some "spirit" in her. HOGWASH! I believe God can and does heal. Why would anybody on the "witnessing the miraculous" thread have any reason to lie to me.
Our touching, words or faith has nothing to do with it. God heals to build faith not justify it.
If anybody cares to address the possibility that the "gifts" were medical knowledge given in a time when it was few and far between.