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Old 11-07-2013, 07:13 AM
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Is this suicide? Is suicide sin? Is this sin?

This Indiana hunter's life is tragically cut short, but under a very unique set of circumstances. What do you guys think about this situation?

http://news.yahoo.com/injured-indian...181336165.html
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:51 AM
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Such a sad and tragic story.

I don't believe this was suicide or sin. His body was on life support. He was unable to live without the assistance of machines. IMO, this is no different than a person with terminal cancer choosing not to receive any medical treatment.
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:56 AM
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Such a sad and tragic story.

I don't believe this was suicide or sin. His body was on life support. He was unable to live without the assistance of machines. IMO, this is no different than a person with terminal cancer choosing not to receive any medical treatment.
You know brother, I thought it was a very sad story too. But isn't it interesting? The situation, the family and doctor's decisions-- I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read the article.

Still, I don't see MUCH of a difference between this and the services Dr. Kevorkian provided his patients.

For me, the emphasis is on MUCH.

There is one technicality involved-- but is right and wrong determined on technicalities?

I just think the details to this story is very fascinating, when you think about it.
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You know brother, I thought it was a very sad story too. But isn't it interesting? The situation, the doctor's decisions-- I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read the article.

Still, I don't see MUCH of a difference between this and the services Dr. Kevorkian provided his patients.

For me, the emphasis is on MUCH.

There is one technicality involved-- but is right and wrong determined on technicalities?
I see the difference as this: no one ended this man's life. Unlike where Dr. Kevorkian gives drugs which cause the death to occur, this man simply had a ventilator removed.

This man died naturally.

There was no human intervention or drugs given to expedite an early death. That's the difference, which, IMO, is a big issue.
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I see the difference as this: no one ended this man's life. Unlike where Dr. Kevorkian gives drugs which cause the death to occur, this man simply had a ventilator removed.

This man died naturally.

There was no human intervention or drugs given to expedite an early death. That's the difference, which, IMO, is a big issue.
Not so big of a difference in that the decisions for death are being made by the dying. Definite decisions and actions on the part of the dying that leads to death in both situations.
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I am thinking that my opinion that Dr. K. should never have been prosecuted would be the minority around these parts.
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Not so big of a difference in that the decisions for death are being made by the dying. Definite decisions and actions on the part of the dying that leads to death in both situations.
Is there a difference in making a decision about your death before your accident or after?
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:23 AM
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Medical science isn't sacred. Frankly, I think people are living longer than intended as a result of respirators, treatments, and some forms of medication. In a sense, this is playing God... not allowing one to die naturally. Of course, the choice to undergo such procedures and or treatments should be entirely up to the individual.
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Medical science isn't sacred. Frankly, I think people are living longer than intended as a result of respirators, treatments, and some forms of medication. In a sense, this is playing God... not allowing one to die naturally. Of course, the choice to undergo such procedures and or treatments should be entirely up to the individual.
This reminds me of a conversation I had with my Dr. a couple weeks ago.

He pointed out that we have a huge rise in Diabetes. He stated that while diet is a huge factor, there is another factor that we are not accounting for.
Diabetics used to die. Now they go on and live productive lives and they also pass along their genes to another generation.

There will come a point when virtually everyone will have the genetic makeup of a diabetic.


Medicine has improved our lives but in the long run, is it doing serious damage to humanity?
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This reminds me of a conversation I had with my Dr. a couple weeks ago.

He pointed out that we have a huge rise in Diabetes. He stated that while diet is a huge factor, there is another factor that we are not accounting for.
Diabetics used to die. Now they go on and live productive lives and they also pass along their genes to another generation.

There will come a point when virtually everyone will have the genetic makeup of a diabetic.


Medicine has improved our lives but in the long run, is it doing serious damage to humanity?
Medical science has done wonders and has also caused massive heartache all in the name of "saving lives". I knew about a child that was injured with a massive head injury, rush to a regional hospital and under went several operations. The child never recovered, never spoke again, never walked, could not control his bowels or bladder, but the doctors walked away confident that they had "saved a life". The doctors left a mother to attend a child that grew into a teenager that was a total invalid.
Sad.
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