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Old 12-30-2009, 01:23 PM
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Creation and Time by Hugh Ross

Anyone read this book? I know it is an older book, but I am just getting around to reading it. Makes a lot of good points, a good read so far. Some of the science talk makes my head hurt, however. lol
http://www.amazon.com/Creation-Time-...2203792&sr=8-1
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: Creation and Time by Hugh Ross

I don't own that book, but I do have A Matter of Days, Who Was Adam, and Bright Lights and Little Green Men.

They're all excellent books.
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Re: Creation and Time by Hugh Ross

Have it. Read it. I really enjoyed it, it challanged me to think through some of those things again.
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Re: Creation and Time by Hugh Ross

Try reading Douglas Kelly's book Creation and Change , the champion of young-earth creationism. (R. C. Sproul admitted that this book converted him from an old-earth to a young-earth view.)

I personally do not agree with Ross and his evolutionary views, but that would be a long discussion.
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Try reading Douglas Kelly's book Creation and Change , the champion of young-earth creationism. (R. C. Sproul admitted that this book converted him from an old-earth to a young-earth view.)

I personally do not agree with Ross and his evolutionary views, but that would be a long discussion.
Ross doesn't believe in evolution. He believes in an old earth.

I have read more young earth books than I can count, Gish, Ham, Morris, etc. I still believe in an old earth.

Though he did not author this article it appears on his website reasonstobelieve.org

http://www.reasons.org/evolution-myt...evolution-myth
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Re: Creation and Time by Hugh Ross

I have it, but haven't read it. one of these days....
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Re: Creation and Time by Hugh Ross

Can't remember if this has been mentioned in any of the creation threads: anyone heard of the theory that light has slowed down since creation? This is supposed to explain how light from distant galaxies etc. got here so fast. IMO, .
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Can't remember if this has been mentioned in any of the creation threads: anyone heard of the theory that light has slowed down since creation? This is supposed to explain how light from distant galaxies etc. got here so fast. IMO, .
That's just another example of the YEC's throwing everything at the wall and hoping something will stick.

Their tactic in their "debates" and other presentations isn't intended to give a reasoned and coherent view of the natural world. Instead, they just try and baffle people.

"Hey! If light did really slow down, then that means nobody knows how fast it can go! Nobody knows anything! You weren't there at the time of the creation but I can pretend that I was and that makes me the authority! ..."

... and so on.

The universe has no constants and is unmearsuable - in their view. So it's perfectly alright to just make things up. Ultimately, for me, I came to the realization that these guys were actually selling a trickster god, like Loki and not Jesus Christ. That's what got me out of the YEC camp as a young person.

Hugh Ross has presented some rather good material over the years and Creation and Time is one of them. His "anti-evolution" stuff is disappointing, however.
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As a YEC, I was somewhat offended by your last post, Brother David....sounds like you're a little bitter.
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As a YEC, I was somewhat offended by your last post, Brother David....sounds like you're a little bitter.
Sorry to offend. Sounds like your back is against the wall and your worldview has left you with little more than the "if you don't agree with me you're bitter" canard.

Not to worry! While reality can be frightening thing, understanding it and living within it can bring a great deal of happiness to your life.
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