I would be interested in the thought's of pastors and ministers on the following scriptures.
Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. Mat 18:18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
Mat 18:30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
Binding and loosing a person is forgiving a person or not forgiving a person. Literally, it means requiring something or not requiring it.
Jesus gave us that much authority that when two or three of us make a decision on a person's state, being forgiven or not, due to the reaction of requiring one to repent, that it is as though Jesus made the decision. That is what it means for two or three to gather in his name and see Him in their midst. It does not mean if only two show up for church Jesus is there.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
Mat 18:30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
Binding and loosing a person is forgiving a person or not forgiving a person. Literally, it means requiring something or not requiring it.
Jesus gave us that much authority that when two or three of us make a decision on a person's state, being forgiven or not, due to the reaction of requiring one to repent, that it is as though Jesus made the decision. That is what it means for two or three to gather in his name and see Him in their midst. It does not mean if only two show up for church Jesus is there.
You are correct when you say one must forgive. One must forgive even if not asked, but that does not negate what the trespassing person did. The one that trespasses is bound until he apologizes and repents for his trespass to the church. He's counted as a heathen to the church.
You are correct when you say one must forgive. One must forgive even if not asked, but that does not negate what the trespassing person did. The one that trespasses is bound until he apologizes and repents for his trespass to the church. He's counted as a heathen to the church.
The forgiveness I spoke about, and what Jesus meant. was loosing one from prison. If the person has not repented, then THAT forgiveness has not occurred.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
The forgiveness I spoke about, and what Jesus meant. was loosing one from prison. If the person has not repented, then THAT forgiveness has not occurred.
In the parable, both "sinners" repented. It was the offended ones who responded differently. And the unforgiving one was punished. So, how exactly does this "explain" the loosed/bound in heaven/earth thing, again? I'm confused.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
Mat 18:30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
Binding and loosing a person is forgiving a person or not forgiving a person. Literally, it means requiring something or not requiring it.
Jesus gave us that much authority that when two or three of us make a decision on a person's state, being forgiven or not, due to the reaction of requiring one to repent, that it is as though Jesus made the decision. That is what it means for two or three to gather in his name and see Him in their midst. It does not mean if only two show up for church Jesus is there.
How many people have to gather for it to be church?
How many people have to gather for it to be church?
More than three, I would say. But I suspect it is talking about the elders of the church being together. Not in a congregation with any Tom, Dick or Harry attending.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
But I suspect it is talking about the elders of the church being together. Not in a congregation with any Tom, Dick or Harry attending.
Hybrid Mode
