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03-12-2018, 11:46 AM
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Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
We all know that no one Baptized between the the crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the day of Pentecost! We also know that no one was commanded to be baptized in Jesus'name until then..................Please tell me were the Apostles Matthew,John,James Thomas etc baptized in Jesus name and if so by whom? Is there any scripture found in the bible to answer this question.
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03-12-2018, 12:35 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
John 4:1 Jesus and His disciples baptized in the Jordan.
John 3:22 the writer documents that Jesus and His disciples went into the Judean countryside, with his followers and baptized.
In John 3:26 the Pharisees try to tell John that he was having a church split. That Jesus who was baptized by John went on His own and was baptizing His own neophytes. Therefore the Gospel according to John records that Jesus' apostles baptized early in their ministry.
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03-12-2018, 01:49 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
John 4:1 Jesus and His disciples baptized in the Jordan.
John 3:22 the writer documents that Jesus and His disciples went into the Judean countryside, with his followers and baptized.
In John 3:26 the Pharisees try to tell John that he was having a church split. That Jesus who was baptized by John went on His own and was baptizing His own neophytes. Therefore the Gospel according to John records that Jesus' apostles baptized early in their ministry.
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Of course He did.
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03-12-2018, 12:44 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
EB said it...Jesus baptized his own disciples.
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03-12-2018, 01:31 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
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Originally Posted by consapente89
EB said it...Jesus baptized his own disciples.
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It is written:
John 4:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) Only the disciples performed baptisms. Jesus didn't water baptize anyone.
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03-12-2018, 04:00 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
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It is written:
John 4:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,
2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,) Only the disciples performed baptisms. Jesus didn't water baptize anyone.
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Commas were added later to the document. The previous witness of the writer of John, and the religious Judean leadership has Jesus baptizing His apostles.
Jesus is baptized by John, Jesus then baptizes His 12, and they in turn baptize others.
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03-13-2018, 09:27 AM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Commas were added later to the document. The previous witness of the writer of John, and the religious Judean leadership has Jesus baptizing His apostles.
Jesus is baptized by John, Jesus then baptizes His 12, and they in turn baptize others.
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I'm not finding this interpretation in any Bible translation I've looked into. Here are just a handful of the translations I've looked at that I regard as being the most accurate.
John 4:1-2 (ESV)
Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John 2 (although Jesus himself did not baptize, but only his disciples),
John 4:1-2 (NRSV)
Now when Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard, “Jesus is making and baptizing more disciples than John” 2 —although it was not Jesus himself but his disciples who baptized—
John 4:1-2 (Young's Literal Translation)
When therefore the Lord knew that the Pharisees heard that Jesus more disciples doth make and baptize than John,
2 (though indeed Jesus himself was not baptizing, but his disciples,) This Jewish translation is interesting...
Yochanan 4:1-2 (Orthodox Jewish Bible)
4 Therefore when Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach knew that the Perushim heard that he makes more talmidim and administers the tevilah of teshuva to more talmidim than Yochanan,
2 Although Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach himself did not personally administer the mikveh mayim’s tevilah—this was administered by his talmidim, I think you're wrong on this one EB.
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03-12-2018, 02:39 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
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Originally Posted by consapente89
EB said it...Jesus baptized his own disciples.
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I'm not convinced 100% that Jesus personally baptised anyone. The text notes "but Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples did", does it not? His mission was to baptise with the Spirit, as opposed to John baptising with water.
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03-12-2018, 02:51 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I'm not convinced 100% that Jesus personally baptised anyone. The text notes "but Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples did", does it not? His mission was to baptise with the Spirit, as opposed to John baptising with water.
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I agree. The text appears to state that Jesus didn't water baptize. EB appears to be wrong on this one.
Did you know, that EB thought he might be mistaken once, but he was wrong?
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03-12-2018, 03:50 PM
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Re: Were the Apostles baptized in Jesus Name?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I'm not convinced 100% that Jesus personally baptised anyone. The text notes "but Jesus Himself did not baptize, but His disciples did", does it not? His mission was to baptise with the Spirit, as opposed to John baptising with water.
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I believe that Jesus did baptize, as the Bible says that the husband an that labors must be first partakers of the fruit. He can’t actively preach something and then don’t partake in that ourselves, as He had to be an example unto them first as to what they should do.
As far as I know, there are two incidents were it talks about Jesus baptizing. One says that Jesus took his disciples to the river, and baptized, another says that Jesus baptized not, but his disciples. Due to that, I think the second scripture is saying that Jesus baptized no one, but his disciples, or that Jesus only baptized his disciples.
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