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Old 11-06-2007, 06:55 PM
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As we continue to wait for January to come, it's sorta entertaining to watch all of the diversionary tactics employed by those planning the Tulsa meeting, and those in power in the ivory towers of the Not-So-United-Kingdom.

So, while everyone else deals in denial, I feel it my lot in life to remind you that....

many have already left,

many more will be leaving,

and the financial impact is gonna be remarkable.

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Old 11-06-2007, 07:03 PM
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As we continue to wait for January to come, it's sorta entertaining to watch all of the diversionary tactics employed by those planning the Tulsa meeting, and those in power in the ivory towers of the Not-So-United-Kingdom.

So, while everyone else deals in denial, I feel it my lot in life to remind you that....

many have already left,

many more will be leaving,

and the financial impact is gonna be remarkable.

God is in control, God is in control, God is in control.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:24 PM
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God is in control, God is in control, God is in control.
What does that really mean, anyway?
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:25 PM
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What does that really mean, anyway?
It means that we must have faith that things will work as they should.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:31 PM
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What does that really mean, anyway?

It means God knows everything that is going on. He has it under control. We don't have to worry.


Ps 46:1-3 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea; Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:34 PM
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What does that really mean, anyway?
Generally, I take it to mean that the discernable laws of the predictable behavior of these chaotic events cannot now be perceived.

Thus, events appear to be random and without design or concern for the established norms of "justice;" and in spite of this we hold out confidence that things will sort themselves out in the end into a pattern reasonably acceptable as "good."
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:04 PM
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Generally, I take it to mean that the discernable laws of the predictable behavior of these chaotic events cannot now be perceived.

Thus, events appear to be random and without design or concern for the established norms of "justice;" and in spite of this we hold out confidence that things will sort themselves out in the end into a pattern reasonably acceptable as "good."
I dunno, "God is in control" seems like a tautology, or a self-fulfilling prophecy, or something. It can't possibly be disproved: nothing that ever happens could possibly be bad enough for us to say, "God slipped up". We can always say that He allowed it to happen for some greater good.

And who gets to decide what is good? Humans will never agree on some things (like Res 4, e.g.). So, leave it to God, right? Well, that would be another convenient way of proving that "God is in control" -- no matter what happens, God must think it was good. He allowed it to (or made it) happen, after all.

And to say that God is literally "in control" is to point a big finger of blame right at Him! 9/11? God was in control. Hitler? God controlled him.

Sometimes I think we say things just because we've heard others say them all our lives, without really thinking about what they mean.

Just rambling.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:27 PM
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I dunno, "God is in control" seems like a tautology, or a self-fulfilling prophecy, or something. It can't possibly be disproved: nothing that ever happens could possibly be bad enough for us to say, "God slipped up". We can always say that He allowed it to happen for some greater good.

And who gets to decide what is good? Humans will never agree on some things (like Res 4, e.g.). So, leave it to God, right? Well, that would be another convenient way of proving that "God is in control" -- no matter what happens, God must think it was good. He allowed it to (or made it) happen, after all.

And to say that God is literally "in control" is to point a big finger of blame right at Him! 9/11? God was in control. Hitler? God controlled him.

Sometimes I think we say things just because we've heard others say them all our lives, without really thinking about what they mean.

Just rambling.
I have no trouble saying God is in control. He is not fooled, flamboozled, turning a blind eye, mocked, or any such thing. He knows the end from the beginning and He has the big picture in view.

God is good and the Bible is clear what God thinks about the wicked and their devices. We all reap what we sow. Do you think God has any say in the wars of men? Read your Bible. There are woes a plenty from God to all the nations for their sins in the books of the prophets.

I trust God, I trust that God is good, fair, just, compassionate, righteous, etc. He has his reasons why He lets the wicked flourish at times and I trust that He knows what He is doing.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:30 PM
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I dunno, "God is in control" seems like a tautology, or a self-fulfilling prophecy, or something. It can't possibly be disproved: nothing that ever happens could possibly be bad enough for us to say, "God slipped up". We can always say that He allowed it to happen for some greater good.

And who gets to decide what is good? Humans will never agree on some things (like Res 4, e.g.). So, leave it to God, right? Well, that would be another convenient way of proving that "God is in control" -- no matter what happens, God must think it was good. He allowed it to (or made it) happen, after all.

And to say that God is literally "in control" is to point a big finger of blame right at Him! 9/11? God was in control. Hitler? God controlled him.

Sometimes I think we say things just because we've heard others say them all our lives, without really thinking about what they mean.

Just rambling.
That's what I was saying, sort of. However, if you pick a reasonable outcome as being "acceptable" or "good," then your faith will prevail and even grow stronger.

If you "go for the moon" and demand miracles all the time, you're certain to be dissappointed with most outcomes that you face. Therefore, be like Koheleth (Ecclesiastes 1:1) and see that since death is the inevitable outcome of life (Ecclesiastes 1:2) everything that happens up until that time is "meaningless" or a "vanity."

Let it all go. Ride the waves and keep your feet on the board while waiting for the next wave (otherwise the sharks will bite). Keep pointed toward the shore but also keep an eye on the sea. The next big wave is probably the swell that you're seeing out on the horizon. Oh, dude.*

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Old 11-06-2007, 10:28 PM
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God is in control, God is in control, God is in control.
Yes, God is in control and if I may say something outrageous? I'm not even sure God knows what the UPCI is!!! .......... I know, I know ....... He knows all things but whether the UPCI continues or not, does not effect His Kingdom or its economy. Considering my Father's Grand Plan, this is a tempest in a teapot! As to those who feel they are divinely appointed to be "Keeper of The Keys" and it sure is fortunate for God that they came along for such a time as this, take another look, for I can [almost] see God sitting down with a good book and some chocolate chip cookies and milk. God aint worried!!!
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