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12-16-2010, 07:52 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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I am assuming Mike Blume does not think people dressing a holiness standard are not capable of standing out by loving one another?
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I think there is a tendency for nonstandards folks to think standards folks don't have love or least use love arguement used as if standard have a monopoly on no love.
I do think Bro Blume is emphasizing that love is central theme of our lives with everything else branching off of if.
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12-16-2010, 07:59 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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I don't agree with that.
Both genders have their weaknesses and, generally speaking, the other gender holds the cards concerning that weakness. Nothing Eve did had to do with seduction or temptation. What Eve did had to do with being able to be swayed by persuasive argument and failing to see the law as absolute. This is a case of "following ones heart" which is a tendency more prevalent for the female of the species.
Both male & female bring their own brand of strengths to humanity and both have their own set of areas where they are more easily led astray. The strengths of one support the weakness of the other and, together, we are a stronger species.
When one gender views the other gender with disdain or views them as "weak" as a gender then the respect between genders necessary for us to learn from one another is not present and we all lose.
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I don't agree with it either, D4T. But I really think that is how it started, not that it is necessarily true.
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12-16-2010, 08:03 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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I don't agree with it either, D4T. But I really think that is how it started, not that it is necessarily true.
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First... how can one forward a hypothesis that they don't agree with.
Second... it can't be true in the least. Like I said... nothing Eve did had to do with seduction or temptation. Adam didn't even know she was naked until he ate of the apple.
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12-16-2010, 08:05 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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I am assuming Mike Blume does not think people dressing a holiness standard are not capable of standing out by loving one another?
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That's like the statement, "Saying that the possession of one-God doctrine does not mean we are saved implies that those who believe in one God are not saved." LOL. I never meant nor said that at all. I just was stemming my statement from the declarations of standard keepers that they dress the way they do in order to let the world know who they are, when such a declaration is unscriptural and opposes what the bible actually says about what is meant to tell them who we are.
Steeping on toes usually has the stepped-on folks distorting what was said. 
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12-16-2010, 08:05 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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First... how can one forward a hypothesis that they don't agree with.
Second... it can't be true in the least. Like I said... nothing Eve did had to do with seduction or temptation. Adam didn't even know she was naked until he ate of the apple.
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You don't think a preacher ever used that as an example? Not just about Eve, but that women are like that, and that is why they had to dress a certain way.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-16-2010, 08:16 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
First... how can one forward a hypothesis that they don't agree with.
Second... it can't be true in the least. Like I said... nothing Eve did had to do with seduction or temptation. Adam didn't even know she was naked until he ate of the apple.
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I think she meant that the MISTAKEN reasoning some people propose standards for women more than men is due to this MISTAKEN notion of Adam and Eve, implying the notion is wrong.
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12-16-2010, 08:17 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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I think she meant that the MISTAKEN reasoning some people propose standards for women more than men is due to this MISTAKEN notion of Adam and Eve, implying the notion is wrong.
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Ahhhh... Now I see.
Thanks for the help with that.
Okay Cindy. I understand now. Please disregard my previous post. 
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12-16-2010, 08:18 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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You don't think a preacher ever used that as an example? Not just about Eve, but that women are like that, and that is why they had to dress a certain way.
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Yes ma'am. They certainly have. I misunderstood what you were saying. Brother Blume helped me out.
Good point.
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12-16-2010, 09:16 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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Right. And the bible never said we are known by the way we dress, anyway, but by our love for one another. How people gravitate to this "they will know us by the way we dress" idea never ceases to amaze me in light of Jesus' plain statement that our love is for that purpose.
My 14 year old daughter was asked by some standard-keeping friends what it was that makes our church different from their's, since we are both one God and Acts 2:38. She responded in an amazingly wise manner: "We believe our love for one another tells the world who we are, not the way we dress." |
Out of the mouth of babes...your daughter is wise beyond her years.
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12-16-2010, 10:08 AM
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Re: Did 1st century christian women "stand out"?
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Right. And the bible never said we are known by the way we dress, anyway, but by our love for one another. How people gravitate to this "they will know us by the way we dress" idea never ceases to amaze me in light of Jesus' plain statement that our love is for that purpose.
My 14 year old daughter was asked by some standard-keeping friends what it was that makes our church different from their's, since we are both one God and Acts 2:38. She responded in an amazingly wise manner: "We believe our love for one another tells the world who we are, not the way we dress." |
Love it!!!!
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