they are outlined in scripture.... but I did think your post was a good one...
Oh, like tongues? Any others?
But still, if there are signs today, what scripture tells you 1) what signs will not occur? and 2) how can you distinguish a true sign from a false one, even if it does appear in the approved list of signs?
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It reminded me of the charismatic nonsense of the 90's. I told my friend to wait it out... watch for any strange manifestations. Would be a shame if people started making animal noises.
That happened one time at youth camp. The kids started running around on all fours barking. This was right after we stood in a line so we could be slain in the spirit. It was a UPC Camp,and the preachers over this were pretty well known. One of the local preachers told everyone to leave the building, he was not going to let the barking continue.
seems to me "just in my opinion I'm probably wrong" that there is enough that needs to be done such as healings, deliverances, encouragments and salvation that God shouldnt have to scratch his head and say "Wow...people are losing interest...what can I do to up my billing?......I KNOW!...Now hear this one out cause its gonna sound crazy!...yeah even crazier than usual! Ok here goes........ Gold Flakes In The Air!....Catchy Eh?
Agreed. This is why in Hinny Benn meetings there are a lot of bodies hitting the floor. The reason is people see something happening and walk away happy. That is why if sister so and so screams in a meeting, we walk out happy believing something happened. As long as we fall for that stuff real miracles won't happen or will continue to be more rare than we want
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Don't worry about testing the gold flakes. Just wait and see if the preacher takes an offering. If he does, don't believe the flakes.
After all, who needs an offering when God's raining gold?
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But still, if there are signs today, what scripture tells you 1) what signs will not occur? and 2) how can you distinguish a true sign from a false one, even if it does appear in the approved list of signs?
you missed the part about praying for a dead guy? that is a really cool sign.
tongues will cease... when perfection arrives...
everything is subject to the word of God. Even how God deals with mankind. Not because God cannot righteously deal with man in ways beyond the scope of scripture (he can as everything he does is righteous) but because the word of God is the guide post for us to understand him.
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you missed the part about praying for a dead guy? that is a really cool sign.
I saw that. Thought it went without saying that that would be a really cool sign. I have never seen it happen. It is one of the signs in the Bible, however, unlike gold flakes. Have you seen it happen?
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tongues will cease... when perfection arrives...
Has perfection arrived? Have tongues ceased? I'm confused about the point you're making.
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everything is subject to the word of God. Even how God deals with mankind. Not because God cannot righteously deal with man in ways beyond the scope of scripture (he can as everything he does is righteous) but because the word of God is the guide post for us to understand him.
That I understand. What I don't get is how any of this helps us sort out fake signs from real (if any) signs. Gold flakes happen, though this sign is not mentioned in the Bible. Raising the dead doesn't (far as I know) happen, but that sign is in the Bible.
Still, the Bible does warn about false signs, so there is that. It doesn't tell you how to determine if a sign is fake, though. Sadly.
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