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02-25-2011, 03:06 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Many respond to the question of why God created us by saying something like it being for His pleasure, and for Him to love us, etc. And when asked about our utmost goal of all goals, it is to die and go to Heaven. I DISAGREE! lol
The very first chapter of the Bible (significant) says God made man to have dominion on the earth and to subdue it. THAT IS IT!
To restore us to where we fell from, God would not have us die and go to Heaven. We fell from having dominion over the earth.
Yes, if we die we will go to Heaven. However, NOT FOREVER, though. Shocked? Think about it. THERE IS A RESURRECTION COMING in which we will once again abide in our EARTH SUITS called BODIES which are not made for Heaven or the unseen realm. Only, we will never die physically again.
God made us to have dominion on earth. Satan fell from heaven, not man. So dying and going to heaven is not our utmost goal.
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Mike is absolutely right folks. Believe it and receive it! 
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02-25-2011, 03:09 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Mike is absolutely right folks. Believe it and receive it!
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Amen!
Raven, you are like a Daddy - - when you put your seal on something, it's right!
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02-25-2011, 03:12 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
"..in the mornin in the mornin... when I rise..."
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02-25-2011, 03:17 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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"Behold, I make ALL things NEW." He redeems the earth to become NEW.
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and we are now the new creation.
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02-25-2011, 03:20 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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SOMEONE needs to disagree, or this is no longer AFF!!
Come on... someone talk about being seated in heavenly places... talk about how the new heaven & earth are one in the same in quality, talk about how he went and prepared dwelling places for us (Father's house)... something!!! Too much agreement on this thread!  |
OK if new jeruslem is not a literal city, which it's not, then would new heaven/earth not be literal as well.
Is that better? 
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02-25-2011, 03:29 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Mike,
I thought you did not believe in the 1000 year reign of Christ?
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I don't. I believe in the eternal reign of Christ on earth.  And it already started 2000 years ago. It will just kick in exponentially greater after the coming of the Lord, but not for a mere 1000 years.
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Last edited by mfblume; 02-25-2011 at 03:33 PM.
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02-25-2011, 03:58 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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OK if new jeruslem is no a literal city, which it's not, then would new heaven/earth not be literal as well.
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NO YOU DIDN'T!!! LOL! I was in a service a few years ago. The evangelist was preaching and he said something like (for no apparent reason) "I don't care what the preterists say, the New Jerusalem is real, it has measurements and dimensions..." I almost laughed out loud.
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02-25-2011, 03:58 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Originally Posted by Socialite
SOMEONE needs to disagree, or this is no longer AFF!!
Come on... someone talk about being seated in heavenly places... talk about how the new heaven & earth are one in the same in quality, talk about how he went and prepared dwelling places for us (Father's house)... something!!! Too much agreement on this thread! |
I was thinking about this Thread at lunch today. My question is this; does this reign on Earth include those of the Old Testament?
Even if it doesn't, there might be a population issue (Unless only those from AFF are saved!  ).
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02-25-2011, 04:03 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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NO YOU DIDN'T!!! LOL! I was in a service a few years ago. The evangelist was preaching and he said something like (for no apparent reason) "I don't care what the preterists say, the New Jerusalem is real, it has measurements and dimensions..." I almost laughed out loud.
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lol
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The sinful thoughts subdue,
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And someday master you. --Anon.
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02-25-2011, 04:10 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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NO YOU DIDN'T!!! LOL! I was in a service a few years ago. The evangelist was preaching and he said something like (for no apparent reason) "I don't care what the preterists say, the New Jerusalem is real, it has measurements and dimensions..." I almost laughed out loud.
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Yeah, dimensions sorta like this:
Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, (18) May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; (19) And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
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