Yes It Was God

[GISG]

Another great post, OA.

I don't understand why the fact that the borders have not been moved does not penetrate?

That makes God the thought police, a new role. God doesn't bring judgement for an act that hasn't occured. And if He did, why would He pick out Joplin, Mo.????

I guess the fact that Jesus said He did NOT come into the world to condemn it is meaningless too?

Things have been pretty quiet latley, maybe God is satisified now?

[GISG]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

MTD... don't you understand that. God islong suffering = he never brings judgment of any kind. Don't you understand we are under grace and God is not a mean person anymore? Don't you understand that what "who" we view as Christians must be right because well they are good people? God does not do that anymore... he is all love. Natural events happen... pffft Thus cannot be God. Didn't God bring "prophets' to the people to "turn" or be detroyed? Forget all the TV and mass communnication of basic principles of truth all the time of "DON'T SIN." eehhh God is good all the time God is good. It's not like people are not standing up to abortion or other things this nation is doing to totally negate God. (sarcasm) Note: I don't know whether it is or not God's judgment but I surely will not say it is not. Most of the points I have read here are pretty bad and only deal with small aspects vs the larger picture. Yes... God does bring justice on children because of their parents.

Are you saying those two little boys who were killed in the Tornado because of their parents?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by GISG

Another great post, OA.

I don't understand why the fact that the borders have not been moved does not penetrate?

That makes God the thought police, a new role.

New role? About half of the Ten Commandments are policing thoughts! Jesus convicts you of adultery if you lust! God demands that we believe, or else!

God doesn't bring judgement for an act that hasn't occured. And if He did, why would He pick out Joplin, Mo.????

I guess the fact that Jesus said He did NOT come into the world to condemn it is meaningless too?

Things have been pretty quiet latley, maybe God is satisified now?

He made me spill salsa on my jeans yesterday. There had to be a reason for it.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by GISG

Are you saying those two little boys who were killed in the Tornado because of their parents?

nope... I am saying death has come to children because God judged the parents or the nation.

[OneAccord]

I don't see God as One who judges actions so much as he does the intents behind those actions. Numbering Israel couldn't have been all that bad, it was WHY David did this that got him into trouble. God judges out motives more than He does our actions. For example: I once saw a man at work who was having a seizure. Other men crowded around to render assistance, or so I thought. I judged them to be good men, helping a fellow worker in need. What I didn't know, and what I couldn't see, was that those "good men" relieved the victim of his wallet, a watch and a gold chain around his neck. I saw good actions and judged accordingly. God saw bad actions because He could see what I could not see- bad motives.

God judges the intents of the heart. God looks more at the WHY than He does the WHAT. Why did Pres. Obama make such a suggestion? As an act of betrayal against Israel? Or was he simply offering his a solution to a problem that has no solution? I don't know. Only God knows the WHY.

[RandyWayne]

Why Joplin, MO? Why not San Fransisco or New York or Miami or Las Vegas or Madison WI, or Berkley CA, or..... You get the idea.

Perhaps there is FAR more evil in the (not so) sleepy little town of Joplin then any of us have been led to believe?

Of course when you have songs like THIS written about your village, there may be more to it then meets the eyes!

One night in Jop-lin and the world's your oyster
The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free
You'll find a god in every golden cloister
And if you're lucky then the god's a she
I can feel an angel sliding up to me

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Why Joplin, MO? Why not San Fransisco or New York or Miami or Las Vegas or Madison WI, or Berkley CA, or..... You get the idea.

Perhaps there is FAR more evil in the (not so) sleepy little town of Joplin then any of us have been led to believe?

Of course when you have songs like THIS written about your village, there may be more to it then meets the eyes!

what it all comes down to is some one is trying to make a sermon for sunday and stated look at what happends to you when you mess with israel. unfortunatly people jump on this band wagon and ignore scripture.

Then run back to the old testament and take a very specific event for that specific time frame and try to bring it out to be applicable today.

what MtD fails to understand is that God always sent in a prophet or a man of God proclaiming repentance before these ever happened. case in point nineva, a jewish prophet to a gentile city. they recieved around 40 days

its obsurd to think what he is trying to explain.
and when i stated the 18 people and the tower of siloam in the book of luke he still didnt get it.

The Lord said those people were no more of sinners than anyone else. yet the discibles were looking at it like God judged them for being evil.

this kinda of stuff is terrible way to try and interpret something that isnt there., and should be filed away with the harold campings and william millers of bad prophecies

[Timmy]

Question for Mike (sorry if you've addressed this already -- I may have missed it):

Are all "natural" disasters God's judgement or warning for something?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Question for Mike (sorry if you've addressed this already -- I may have missed it):

Are all "natural" disasters God's judgement or warning for something?

Bump for MtheD, or anyone else who'd like to chime in.

[OnTheFritz]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Question for Mike (sorry if you've addressed this already -- I may have missed it):

Are all "natural" disasters God's judgement or warning for something?

Nope. Just the ones that help support bad theories.