please help me with this

[faithit166]

amen houston he knows what we have need of, you didnt have to ask anyone for anything and he made the way, i was telling this woman about a time when i was low on food and i got blessed this lady said to me if you are ever low on food you come to me and i will make sure you have it i said thats awful sweet of you miss thompson but god told me to ask him and if he lays it on your heart then so be it, im just trying to understand literally going out and saying i need 200.00 can you help me i thought we were to ask him straighten me out if im wrong

[faithit166]

thanks to those who responded i think im just gonna take this to the lord and ask him, hes never failed me yet god bless

[Falla39]

Faithut166,
This is just me, but I know HIM well enough that I take my needs directly to HIM.
I also don't go and ask the pastor to pray for everything I need because I know how
to ask myself. I don't need someone to do what I can do myself. I grew up in a family
of eleven children. I was the eldest daughter, having one older brother by 14 mos. I
learned early in life how to feed myself, do a lot of things for myself. There were nine
siblings younger than myself. Some of us had to learn to do some things for ourselves
early on. I helped do many things for my younger siblings. Didn't think a thing about it.

Many in the church today, do not know how to pray for themselves, help with the new
"babies", etc. They run to the pastor with ever little situation. Many pastors are worn
out from "feeding, teaching, babysitting, etc., older "babies" who parents didn't teach
them to look to God for anything. Just ask Pastor. I know people who wouldn't teach
their children, but would tell their kids, "You'll have to ask pastor whether you can do
or not do this. The pastors have their own families. God didn't call him to raise others
children. The "training up in the way they should go", is the parents responsibility!

Some pastors may love it so, but it should not be. We have a Bible and the Holy Ghost
to lead and guide us. Make room for the "new converts or babies." Many need to grow up
in Christ"!
There are those who ask me to pray for them for situations and I am happy to do so. Now
instead of telling them, "Yes, I'll be praying for you, I start praying right then. That way
they will learn how to pray themselves. Children learn by example and "big kids can too!
Never too late too learn. Hugs!

Falla39

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by faithit166

thanks to those who responded i think im just gonna take this to the lord and ask him, hes never failed me yet god bless

There is a old saying if it aint broke dont fix it.

[faithit166]

Originally Posted by Falla39

Faithut166,
This is just me, but I know HIM well enough that I take my needs directly to HIM.
I also don't go and ask the pastor to pray for everything I need because I know how
to ask myself. I don't need someone to do what I can do myself. I grew up in a family
of eleven children. I was the eldest daughter, having one older brother by 14 mos. I
learned early in life how to feed myself, do a lot of things for myself. There were nine
siblings younger than myself. Some of us had to learn to do some things for ourselves
early on. I helped do many things for my younger siblings. Didn't think a thing about it.

Many in the church today, do not know how to pray for themselves, help with the new
"babies", etc. They run to the pastor with ever little situation. Many pastors are worn
out from "feeding, teaching, babysitting, etc., older "babies" who parents didn't teach
them to look to God for anything. Just ask Pastor. I know people who wouldn't teach
their children, but would tell their kids, "You'll have to ask pastor whether you can do
or not do this. The pastors have their own families. God didn't call him to raise others
children. The "training up in the way they should go", is the parents responsibility!

Some pastors may love it so, but it should not be. We have a Bible and the Holy Ghost
to lead and guide us. Make room for the "new converts or babies." Many need to grow up
in Christ"!
There are those who ask me to pray for them for situations and I am happy to do so. Now
instead of telling them, "Yes, I'll be praying for you, I start praying right then. That way
they will learn how to pray themselves. Children learn by example and "big kids can too!
Never too late too learn. Hugs!

Falla39

thanks falla

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by faithit166

but isnt that kinda like doing it yourself and taking it out of gods hands,she said she new she could ask several people then shed have her need met if that is the case then why ask god, im just trying to understand

In the complex array of relationships that we have, most people will have someone close that they can ask for help in a time of need. Asking for help a lot will often narrow that close circle of friends until one finds oneself friendless. Your friend will have to either use, or perhaps learn a bit of wisdom here.

I don't think there is anything wrong - on principle - with taking some action to get things done. We're human beings and we are expected to be doing something here.

Philippians 4:19, says: "And my God will supply every need of yours according to his riches in glory in Christ Jesus."

... does this mean that we don't have to "do" anything ever because God will supply ALL of my needs? No. What about asking God for something? Does the act of asking mean that I should now do nothing at all in this area? No.

Matthew 6:25-34, tells us that God already knows what we need before we even ask. Moreover, Jesus points out how that the birds and even the lilies of the field all have a provision made for them by God - and they don't even have to ask for it.

Bust still, there is the "sweat of your face" thing that applies to all that we need and do (Genesis 3:19). I wouldn't sit around too long waiting "for God to answer." It may well be that God is waiting for your friend to act so that He may bless her labors.

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by faithit166

i have a friend who had a financial need, we prayed together and asked the lord in agreement to make away, she would ask people to help meet her need ,i on the other hand did not feel this was trusting in god to make the way, what do you think i remember a time i was in need of something and i went to a very close relative well i was hurt i could not believe they did not help me i was so hurt, but when i got home i heard i didnt tell you to ask them you are to ask me,but because i took it upon myself i got my feelings hurt, my friend said god showed you a way to do things and me a way something just didnt seem right, could someone give me there thoughts on this

your friend is right. God has not shown them the way..
and you cannot make another person experience your revelation..you can share it with them....My opinion is that your friend wants the need met more than getting it from God...in this situation the money God rules..
and the love of money is........

[SeekingOne]

Originally Posted by faithit166

i have a friend who had a financial need, we prayed together and asked the lord in agreement to make away, she would ask people to help meet her need ,i on the other hand did not feel this was trusting in god to make the way, what do you think i remember a time i was in need of something and i went to a very close relative well i was hurt i could not believe they did not help me i was so hurt, but when i got home i heard i didnt tell you to ask them you are to ask me,but because i took it upon myself i got my feelings hurt, my friend said god showed you a way to do things and me a way something just didnt seem right, could someone give me there thoughts on this

I don't think any of us can say what is God's will for another, unless it is a revelation from God for that person. In the new testament church, they gave as they saw a need, it seems. How would they know about the need if nobody was sharing their need.

Personally, God doesn't always supernaturally tell me someone has a need, sometimes I am too busy to hear I suppose, and I am grateful to be allowed to help when someone shares a need and God tells me I am the one to help.

On the other hand, I HAVE been the one that God has spoken to to give to someone that didn't share a need with anyone and they saw the miracle in it and that was good too.

Lets take it case by case, not try to make it some big theological thing that isn't in the Bible.

[Apprehended]

To ask someone else to meet their need is not good for the person in need. If they ask someone to meet their need, what have they learned? Nothing. They are no better off and will soon be in need for someone to meet their next need. They need to go to the Lord, asking for wisdom and seek to be resourceful. If they have God in them, there will be a resource that will rise up within them that will produce what is needed.

Many years ago, I was struggling financially since we were going through a severe down turn in the economy. I was at my wits end. I discussed this with my mother and asked her to help me pray. A few days later, she said to me, "God said to tell you that the power is within you." It was as though a light went on. That's it! The power is within me. It was a turning point in my life. The power is within your friend, if they have God.

[faithit166]

thanks for all the responses