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Old 08-05-2011, 12:28 PM
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This article cuts to the heart of helplessness and to a preached Jesus of hate, rather than love.


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This is overwhelming the most sad letter I have ever read. It makes my heart literally hurt!
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This article cuts to the heart of helplessness and to a preached Jesus of hate, rather than love.


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I don't understand your "preached Jesus of hate, rather than love" comment.
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So sad! The preception that he had of himself makes my heart break.
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I wonder how many times he was chained to the pews during song service as they belted out "Joy unspeakable and full of glory!" a few dozen times.
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I don't understand your "preached Jesus of hate, rather than love" comment.
From what he said He never heard about the real Jesus because it was locked into traditions of men. If he really heard Jesus loved him and understood it I believe He may have had a different outlook of faith.
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From what he said He never heard about the real Jesus because it was locked into traditions of men. If he really heard Jesus loved him and understood it I believe He may have had a different outlook of faith.
That's what I thought, but that doesn't necessarily mean he heard a message of Jesus of hate.

More likely he heard the message of can't do this, can't do that which is what he meant by the traditions of men.

I do agree with what you are saying though - he probably wasn't shown the love of God simply because of the way his parents were.
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No doubt some are thinking "he just needed to pray through!".
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That's what I thought, but that doesn't necessarily mean he heard a message of Jesus of hate.

More likely he heard the message of can't do this, can't do that which is what he meant by the traditions of men.

I do agree with what you are saying though - he probably wasn't shown the love of God simply because of the way his parents were.
Are you familiar with the fundamental baptists? It sounds like that is how he was taught. I'd sad its 99% them. They tell their people that once they are saved they CANNOT lose their salvation, no matter if they commit murder. The guy in the letter clearly expressed He did not believe in or would not serve a God like that.

I heard one IFB preacher say that if you believed you could lose your salvation, you weren't saved.
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