Doctrine and Holiness Conference

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I will say this at Elder Adams's church they had great music.

And great preaching the old Elder was as tough as nails. I miss him.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It was your old church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So glad God got me out of that spitefull mess br Epley. I was a brand new Christian, 19 or 20 yrs old.

I use to call Elder Adams every Christmas, till it just got to much with all his questioning about what standards we preached and lived by up here in the frozen North.

I don't have to worry about any of the Adams family reading my posts here, as they, at least use to, believe all of us that use these computers are gonna split hell wide open.

At least on that one thing he did display some consistency. If you are gonna ........ TV you gotta ........ the internet too.

I was only there for a year but I could curl your toes with some of the things done and said there.

[kclee4jc]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

In his defence the old Elder taught a simple Bible class from Psa.139:20-21
God in all honesty does hate some folks. I think some of this was poking a little at AB's friend. I was NOT there but heard the same lesson somewhere else and enjoyed it of course I was not the object of the lesson.
NOT defending every statement that was made necessarily but trying to balnace it out.

Could it be that he does not hate the individual, but their present condition?

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It was your old church!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So glad God got me out of that spitefull mess br Epley. I was a brand new Christian, 19 or 20 yrs old.

I use to call Elder Adams every Christmas, till it just got to much with all his questioning about what standards we preached and lived by up here in the frozen North.

I don't have to worry about any of the Adams family reading my posts here, as they, at least use to, believe all of us that use these computers are gonna split hell wide open.

At least on that one thing he did display some consistency. If you are gonna ........ TV you gotta ........ the internet too.

I was only there for a year but I could curl your toes with some of the things done and said there.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by kclee4jc

Could it be that he does not hate the individual, but their present condition?

No the Bible is clear He hates some folks because of what they do they get on His hate list.

[Jay]

I believe in strong standards, but my father (my pastor) taught me one important point: there are times and places for addressing certain things, and you always live consistently. You do not show one thing at a conference and another thing at home. It should be the same thing the same way, and if you and another disagree over a small point, do not die on that pebble.

I have seen the competition of one trying to prove that they standards down better than another, but I also remember hearing warnings given in confernces that warned, "What you have is good, but watch the attitude that you have with it. For if your attitude is not right with God, you will not stand." I watched this prophecy come to pass. The group that I saw split and was divided and went every which way. As far as I know, they are still in the church, but they are no longer in fellowship.

Now that I have said that, I have one more thing to say. Those of us who have high external standards must take great care that we do keep an equally high standard where our attitutdes are a concerned.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by Jay

I believe in strong standards, but my father (my pastor) taught me one important point: there are times and places for addressing certain things, and you always live consistently. You do not show one thing at a conference and another thing at home. It should be the same thing the same way, and if you and another disagree over a small point, do not die on that pebble.

I have seen the competition of one trying to prove that they standards down better than another, but I also remember hearing warnings given in confernces that warned, "What you have is good, but watch the attitude that you have with it. For if your attitude is not right with God, you will not stand." I watched this prophecy come to pass. The group that I saw split and was divided and went every which way. As far as I know, they are still in the church, but they are no longer in fellowship.

Now that I have said that, I have one more thing to say. Those of us who have high external standards must take great care that we do keep an equally high standard where our attitutdes are a concerned.

I appreciate this.

[Jay]

If I do or say anything that is right and good, thank God and my parents. They are the ones who made me what and who I am.

[Sherri]

Wow - I just read through this whole thread. I thought I had heard some far-out teaching, but I've never heard stuff like the things in this thread. No wonder people leave Pentecostal circles and run as far away as they can. Sad, because people throw out the baby with the bathwater.

BALANCE is the key in all things. And LOVE.

[Jay]

I have heard some AMF stories from my Dad. I will not repeat them, because I have not heard them in a while, and I would wish them to be accurate. However, I do know that my Dad said that they left the wrong way and for many years their attitude hurt them. That was one reason my Dad was careful to sample the WPF atmosphere before he joined. He said firmly that he would not be part of a group with that type of an attitude.

Even though he did say that, he also said that there were many good men in the AMF, and that many of the founders of it were great men of God. I have heard some preachers who are affiliated with the AMF preach, and wish that I could hear their messages again.