Loudness In Churches.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

3 posts in a row of my own...but I'll try and be quiet after this one.

I'll certainly agree that there is a point where the music etc is too loud. But I'll also say this. We can also reach a place where are too complacent and we are used to just sitting down and "being served" in song and word.

We can get used to a service that is low key and reserved and we rarely see a move of God rather than commonly see such a move. A lot of churches can go years without tongues & interpretation, prophesy etc coming forth.

It can, indeed, go both ways and in both areas there can be people who are too excuberant or others who are too judgmental.

But, as I always heard growing up, "Don't worry about wildfire too much as there are always plenty of wet blankets around to help put it out"

I heard a saying when I was kid "It is easier to restrain a fanatic than to raise the dead."

[shag]

I have quite a few thoughts and replies I would like to make, maybe I'll have time to do so later on tonight...

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I heard a saying when I was kid "It is easier to restrain a fanatic than to raise the dead."

LOL... So true.

[shag]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

3 posts in a row of my own...but I'll try and be quiet after this one.

I'll certainly agree that there is a point where the music etc is too loud. But I'll also say this. We can also reach a place where are too complacent and we are used to just sitting down and "being served" in song and word.

We can get used to a service that is low key and reserved and we rarely see a move of God rather than commonly see such a move. A lot of churches can go years without tongues & interpretation, prophesy etc coming forth.

It can, indeed, go both ways and in both areas there can be people who are too excuberant or others who are too judgmental.

But, as I always heard growing up, "Don't worry about wildfire too much as there are always plenty of wet blankets around to help put it out"

Loud preaching and loud music(in my neck of the woods) is VERY often associated with Spiritual annointing, move of the Holyghost, tongues, Gifts of the Spirit. It is a mindset of "shouting down the Holyghost move". The more outward show of praise, the more apt God is gonna move. Why, because God inhabits praise, so the more praise one can show, then the more Gods gonna move. And how do ya get folks to show more praise, ya gotta motivate them, so crank it up, and get a good loud agressive cheerleader in that microphone!!



But for only about 50 years out of the last 6000 years, has there been electric micophones and speakers to produce such loud noise that is often believed to be a large part of setting the stage for a move of the Holyghost...

Im thinkin how was there ever a move of God and Holyghost annointing (that is so much associated with loud preaching where I attend) before the last 50 years?

And to think on the day of pentecost they were just sitting and not standing up shouting down a move of God, whenever the Holyghost did fall. Impossible.

The rest of Acts, loud music and loud praise to stir up a move of God? Zilch recorded anyway.

I like loud music(within reason) sometimes, whether in the car or with the church, but the whole idea of it setting the stage to produce a move of God, or being an evidence of the move of God, seems somewhat missing for the majority of the last 2000 years, that Im aware of. And its even considered "apostolic" and "pentecostal" now, but no bible for either of the two that Im aware of.

Again, just some tradition and raising I guess, as you pointed out earlier....
but it seems to be a "requirement", for God to move (in a "service") nowadays, where as it has been a missing requirement for 2000+ years.

[BeenThinkin]

Do you know the difference in a "Hymn" and a modern "Praise and Worship" song? Heard this from a Christian comedian! Thought you might like it... or not!

The old country farmer said it like this....

"The cows .... are ...... in the corn!" — Now that's a Hymn!


Now this is a modern day praise song.....

"The cows, the cows, the cows, all of the cows, everyone of the cows are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn...... did you hear me the corn! All, all, all, all, all of the cows, the cows, the cows, the cows, are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn! Yes, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, in the corn!"

"The cows, the cows, the cows, all of the cows, everyone of the cows are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn...... did you hear me the corn! All, all, all, all, all of the cows, the cows, the cows, the cows, are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn! Yes, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, in the corn!"

"The cows, the cows, the cows, all of the cows, everyone of the cows are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn...... did you hear me the corn! All, all, all, all, all of the cows, the cows, the cows, the cows, are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn! Yes, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, in the corn!"

"The cows, the cows, the cows, all of the cows, everyone of the cows are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn...... did you hear me the corn! All, all, all, all, all of the cows, the cows, the cows, the cows, are in the corn, the corn, the corn, the corn! Yes, amen, amen, amen, amen, amen, in the corn!"


Hey, hey, I didn't say not.... the old farmer said it!

Been Thinkin

[unitedpraise10]

DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB! Just felt like saying that. This is so dumb!

[Jay]

I believe that I heard Bro. J. Godair or Bro. Coon use that same story. I love it today as much as I did then. I have no problem with truly annointed music, but so much of it is now made to be as loud and as rocky as possible to disguise the fact that there is no moving of the Spirit.

Then there are other times that you just have really bad accoustics. I know this because that is actually a problem in our church.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Alot times people come to church to feel good,sometimes we need to feel contrition and conviction.

[Pilgrum]

Originally Posted by Jay

I believe that I heard Bro. J. Godair or Bro. Coon use that same story. I love it today as much as I did then. I have no problem with truly annointed music, but so much of it is now made to be as loud and as rocky as possible to disguise the fact that there is no moving of the Spirit.

Bingo!

One way or another we will have a move of God, God willing (or not). And if things aren't moving enough we'll pull out one of those songs that always seems to "shake the foundations" and get her done. Except eventually the "super get her going songs" get old and don't have the same effect. They get over used and familiar so we have to keep a steady influx of new songs to replace the tired worn out ones. Whew, it takes a lot of work and effort to keep the Holy Ghost moving. You know you can't have moves of the Spirit without a steady flow of new music and hundreds of hours of practice by the "worship team." And if you're a small church, well you're handicapped right away because you can't yet afford an earth shaking sound system with computer projected lyrics. Welcome to the show.

[RandyWayne]

I can handle quiet OR loud music, as long as it is good music. What I cannot handle is loud preaching -good or not. I have no problem with some emotion present but the shrill shrieking I hear come out of some preachers is just ridicules.