stealing a candy bar is not a sin...it's being born with the nature to sin..stealing a candy bar is wrong, but you are not condemned for the candy bar..but for the nature of sin....
"That's what people are condemned for ..
he answer to that is the blood of Jesus and his flesh which was broken for you.
scripture has concluded all under sin.. in fact many people don't really begin to sin until after they learn of sin...
then they become swine or hogs wallowing in sin..
but before that their conscience of sin is not really identified ..because of SELF ...this is why people killed the prophets
yep they began hit him from both sides..
and this is why the world hates the body of Christ.....
OK. So the punishment that most of us will get will be because of our nature. The way we are. The way we were born.
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Grace, mercy, pardon, the Cross, repentance, baptism in Jesus' name, the infilling of the Holy Ghost. Completely undeserved, but oh so thankful that it is real.
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I am an Apostolic Pentecostal. Apostolic in teaching, and Pentecostal in experience.
Not necessarily. Even the idea of eternal punishment serves to glorify God's righteousness and as an eternal example of judgment against evil. God is eternally righteous and holy...a crime against Him and His nature requires eternal consequence. For example, an assault against me is a misdemeanor, an assault against the President is a felony. An assault against God is a crime of an eternal nature.
God is not a man, He is the creator, and the redeeming power of the blood of His Son, reconciles all. I know that is the position of the Reform doctrine, however, it is not biblical, it is only a way to excuse God to be unable or unwilling to redeem all of His highest order of creation. Only carnal men could make, the torment of mankind to glorify a Holy, Loving God.
These same men say God cannot tolerate evil, however He has been tolerating it for centuries, matter of fact He created the context for evil to exist. Therefore, it must be in His purpose to use it, as in Romans 8:20: "The creation WAS SUBJECTED to futility, NOT WILLINGLY, but because of HIM WHO SUBJECT IT, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage...." Will not what God desires and hopes, actually come to pass????
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Oh so we don't have free will then? Ok. Now I see it. If in the End God will force HIs will upon us (that all men be saved according to your UR doctrine) then we don't really have free will. We have to do what we are programmed to do and we have no say in the matter. Is that about right?
If the wages of sin is death,then how can someone who dies in a unregenerate state,or has not been considered justified in the eyes of God find eternal life after they die ?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
They repent in the afterlife after a little bit of punishment and then they are saved. Makes perfect sense. That way they paid the wages of sin by dying but they get the "get out of hell free" card for suffering through a tad bit of punishment after death.
They repent in the afterlife after a little bit of punishment and then they are saved. Makes perfect sense. That way they paid the wages of sin by dying but they get the "get out of hell free" card for suffering through a tad bit of punishment after death.
I've talked to a UR proponent that had several degrees and was intelligent,but I can't see it myself.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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