How involved is God?

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Timmy

No, I'm saying you effectively answered "no" to the question "Is it true that you cannot sin." At least that's what I got when I boiled down the mumbo jumbo.

I believe that he said that yes he can not sin.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Jay

I believe that he said that yes he can not sin.

That's possible, too. It could be boiled down in different ways.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr

it is not a sin when everything you do is sin..when a person is born in sin, they cannot improve or degrade any further as far as God is concerned..

they are headed for the dunghill ....

if a Christian steals he shall repay.

Need more clarification. (If possible! ) Are you saying that everything an unbeliever does is sin? And that nothing a Christian does is sin?

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Need more clarification. (If possible! ) Are you saying that everything an unbeliever does is sin? And that nothing a Christian does is sin?

yes about the non believer..but the Christian has deny himself daily and take up his cross....

I mean if you are dead ..how can you sin?

Romans 6:11

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr

yes about the non believer..but the Christian has deny himself daily and take up his cross....

I mean if you are dead ..how can you sin?

Romans 6:11

If you are dead, how can you take up a cross?

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Timmy

If you are dead, how can you take up a cross?

one day at a time..

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by riverslivnwtr

one day at a time..

Are you a zombie?

[Jay]

I think that I know what he is getting at, and if I am correct, I agree. Did not Paul say, "I die daily" (1 Corintians 15:31). In another place he refers to being dead to sin. Basically, it is the constant laying aside of all things that are "weights and sins that doeth so easily beset us" (Hebrews 12:1).

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Are you a zombie?

I am crucified with Christ never the less I live, yet not I but Christ lives in me..and the life that I now live , i live by the faith of the son of God who gave his life for me...

The blood of Jesus takes way sins, removed them, where as Moses covered them up ..but the sin nature was still there; but in Christ Jesus our old man, the flesh is crucified and our new man is renewed everyday..
This approach allows you to escape the law of sin and death which condemns the heart..
self condemnation is the devil's ally...
why serve him that is judged already..
by acknowledging the things that Jesus has given us you become free of condemnation..as Philemon 6 says that the communication of your faith becomes effective by the acknowledging of every good thing that is in you. in Christ Jesus....

did I say also that Peter in his second epistle says that we partake of the divine nature by the exceeding great and precious promises ...

see, I told you that I have the divine nature..

there are 7000 promises in the bible...

I am a living dead but far from Zombyism

remember sombies like to eat human flesh..

but I eat the word of God...
Jeremiah 15:16-21

[riverslivnwtr]

Originally Posted by Jay

I think that I know what he is getting at, and if I am correct, I agree. Did not Paul say, "I die daily" (1 Corintians 15:31). In another place he refers to being dead to sin. Basically, it is the constant laying aside of all things that are "weights and sins that doeth so easily beset us" (Hebrews 12:1).

you are right on it..

for me to live is Christ and to die is gain.. Christ lives in us..and we have to see that everyday, not just a glimpse once in a great while...