Science of Creation

Dalton · #1 03-23-2012, 12:57 PM

Heres a thought,

Scientists are saying they can see a horizon line in space, a light horizon.
http://everyjoe.com/technology/how-c...years-old-191/

In this article it also speaks of the universe expanding constantly...

Isaiah 40:22
"[It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in"

Job 26:7
"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, [and] hangeth the earth upon nothing."

But even at that if we were to take it further in old testament it states we could see heaven from earth, but over time it got farther away... Isaiah 59:2... we know sin seperates us from god.

But as for this horizon line being the center of the universe.....

Genesis 1:7
"And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."

Not only that they state they can see a "Dark Swirling Matter"
(see waters from same genesis verse)

It seems like they are only speculating what Christians already know and giving their own names to it, then attributing another source.

forgivenson · #2 03-23-2012, 03:31 PM

I love science. The only problem with 'science'.....is 'so-called scientists'.....the ones who pre-determine that they will not look under 'every rock' for an explanation.....but will only consider an explanation that will support what they have 'already decided'. That is not science, it is only biased opinion.

RandyWayne · #3 03-23-2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalton

Heres a thought,

Scientists are saying they can see a horizon line in space, a light horizon.
http://everyjoe.com/technology/how-c...years-old-191/

In this article it also speaks of the universe expanding constantly...

Isaiah 40:22
"[It is] he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof [are] as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in"

Job 26:7
"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, [and] hangeth the earth upon nothing."

But even at that if we were to take it further in old testament it states we could see heaven from earth, but over time it got farther away... Isaiah 59:2... we know sin seperates us from god.

But as for this horizon line being the center of the universe.....

Genesis 1:7
"And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so."

Not only that they state they can see a "Dark Swirling Matter"
(see waters from same genesis verse)

It seems like they are only speculating what Christians already know and giving their own names to it, then attributing another source.

This is exactly right. Amazing that everything in the Universe is moving away from everything else at constant proportional speed, thus we see the farthest objects from us moving the fastest and also amazing that the bible compares it to the surface of a tent which is very good analogy for our Universal expansion.

When the bible speaks of "waters" is is most likely speaking about the massive amount of hydrogen, which is the ONLY matter that existed immediately after the Big Bang (ok, there was two forms of hydrogen -matter and antimatter but that is opening up a HUGE can of worms to talk about here. LOL).

forgivenson · #4 03-24-2012, 02:41 PM

That is really a stupid article. It doesent add up biblically or scientifically. It is 'ass-uming'...that if big-bang is correct...that there could 'only be' 'one bang'. Look at nature.....in the spring, every flower doesent 'pop out' of just one place and spread out, they pop out all over the place when the 'conditions' are right. And in biblical creation.....it says God created the heavens....nowhere does it say that he created them all at one central point.....and spread them out. He would have put the radishes in one spot, corn in another, a nice roomy spot to manage the tomatoes etc. Why do people 'assume' that 'God' is not intelligent? Even if they deny 'God'....they even assume the 'universe' is not intelligent. But then...if it is a non-concious creation.....that would make sense that we have so many non-concious people walking around with no faith.

Praxeas · #5 03-24-2012, 03:27 PM

Comparing the big bang to flowers is stupid. Its not the same thing. You are comparing cosmology to botany...

Timmy · #6 03-24-2012, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Comparing the big bang to flowers is stupid. Its not the same thing. You are comparing cosmology to botany...

All I was gonna say was "

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forgivenson · #7 03-24-2012, 03:52 PM

Ok.....so compare it to popcorn.

forgivenson · #8 03-24-2012, 03:53 PM

...and while I am at it. Why isn't it called 'little-bang'? If it is an expanding universe, it must have been very minute in the beginning.

forgivenson · #9 03-24-2012, 03:58 PM

If you throw a rock into space....and it keeps going for billions of years.... would it keep getting bigger as it got futher into the expanding universe? Or would it remain 'static and not keep up with the 'ratio' of outward expansion? How would relative theory apply?