Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Is allowing homosexual doctors approving of homosexuality? What about homosexual lawyers? (Both of these have to be liscensed by the state also). What about giving driver's liscenses to homosexuals? Isn't that approving of homosexuality? What about allowing them to eat in our restaurants? Is that approving of homosexuality.

I think we have a bad mentality here. Approving and endorsing of a homosexuals rights to do something is not approving of homosexuality. So I want to ask how does approving of homosexual marriage go beyond simple approval of homosexual marriage and into actual approval of homosexuality?

That was not what my post meant, JF. You asked a question, that was my answer. Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad? I am assuming that you meant for politicians. If so, it's like they are approving of homosexuality, which to Christians and even some non christians wrong or a sin.

[aegsm76]

jf - it really troubles me that you are struggling with this concept.
Also, I notice that you did not address my multiple partner marriage question.
I frankly, rejoice whenever those who rule follow the Bible in their rulings.
I am saddened whenever Biblical precepts are violated.
If you really want to see what this will lead to, just go this this link.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vid...h-school-stude

The people will not be satisfied until we ENDORSE their lifestyle.
Frankly, many of them believe that we should be locked up or punished if we do not.
This is not about rendering to Caesar.
This is a moral issue that will result in taking down this country.

Come quickly Lord Jesus.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Endorsing or supporting same-sex marriage goes against the very concept of marriage - companionship and procreation.

Homosexuals can have their companionship in a civil union, but it's ridiculous to pretend their relationship can produce offspring. It's simply a pretense at appearing to be normal and why they want to push the marriage issue. And they shouldn't be allowed to force their view and lifestyle on defined marriage - between one man and one woman.

They get all the same rights under a civil union. Therefore, IMO, it should stop there.

There are no laws banning infertile people from marrying. Therefore while marriage typically involves procreation the argument can't be made that just because 2 people can't procreate that they shouldn't be married.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Endorsing or supporting same-sex marriage goes against the very concept of marriage - companionship and procreation.

Homosexuals can have their companionship in a civil union, but it's ridiculous to pretend their relationship can produce offspring. It's simply a pretense at appearing to be normal and why they want to push the marriage issue. And they shouldn't be allowed to force their view and lifestyle on defined marriage - between one man and one woman.

They get all the same rights under a civil union. Therefore, IMO, it should stop there.

BTW I actually prefer the civil union implementation. I think it's the safest course since defining homosexuals as legally married may have unforeseen legal consequences.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

jf - it really troubles me that you are struggling with this concept.
Also, I notice that you did not address my multiple partner marriage question.
I frankly, rejoice whenever those who rule follow the Bible in their rulings.
I am saddened whenever Biblical precepts are violated.
If you really want to see what this will lead to, just go this this link.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vid...h-school-stude

The people will not be satisfied until we ENDORSE their lifestyle.
Frankly, many of them believe that we should be locked up or punished if we do not.
This is not about rendering to Caesar.
This is a moral issue that will result in taking down this country.

Come quickly Lord Jesus.

The concept that endorsing homosexuality is different than endorsing allowing them to legally marry or have civil unions?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Cindy

That was not what my post meant, JF. You asked a question, that was my answer. Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad? I am assuming that you meant for politicians. If so, it's like they are approving of homosexuality, which to Christians and even some non christians wrong or a sin.

And what my post meant was that your answer that it's like approving of homosexuality didn't make sense to me. I'm willing to hear an explaination on how its more like approving of homosexuality than any of the other things I mentioned.

Supporting the right for homosexuals to marry or have civil unions is simply not the same thing as supporting homosexuality. I'm still willing to hear arguments on how it is. I hear often that it is and it seems everyone has bought it hook line and sinker without giving it any thought because not one person is addressing that question.

[deacon blues]

Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions good?

[deacon blues]

Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions good?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by jfrog

There are no laws banning infertile people from marrying. Therefore while marriage typically involves procreation the argument can't be made that just because 2 people can't procreate that they shouldn't be married.

"Typically involving procreation" is the bases of the same-sex marriage argument. The Bible never speaks of anything save the relation between a man and a woman. (I Cor 7:1-5; Ephesians 5:22-33; I & II Peter)

It's totally obtuse, IMO, to reach beyond the foundation that the Bible clearly sets as the precedent to accommodate a weak and depraved society.

And if we want to be really accurate about the subject of homosexuality, we can look at Romans 1.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions good?

That's a great question. Will you answer my question if I answer yours?