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05-21-2012, 12:38 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I'm just trying to drive a point home. It doesn't matter how slick and polished a preacher is... and it doesn't matter how long a woman's hair is. The key is... are they like Jesus??? I was drawing from Christ's rebuke of the Pharisees and their taking pride in the broad boarders of their garments etc. We don't wear broad boarders on our garments. But we do often fall into a pride about our standards. No direct offence was intended.
Not all preachers are bad preachers. But today... I do believe we have a shortage of good solid men of God who are walking after the Spirit. Too many are walking after the manual to be accepted by the orgs they are a part of. 
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But maybe you are wrong and it does matter that hair is long (some think the best way to keep it long is to not cut it). Personally I believe God is not pleased with butch cuts on women...
A four hundred $ suit is a low to moderate price.
If you actually know of those who place suits and long hair before being like Jesus in character - they should come to repentance, I think all will agree there.
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05-21-2012, 12:42 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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But maybe you are wrong and it does matter that hair is long (some think the best way to keep it long is to not cut it). Personally I believe God is not pleased with butch cuts on women...
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1 Cor 11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn
It says she can cut it if she does not want to cover it...ofcourse this scripture makes no sense at all if we hold to the "uncut hair" doctrine...
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05-21-2012, 12:43 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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A four hundred $ suit is a low to moderate price.
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I got mine at wal-mart it was way cheaper......
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05-21-2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
I bought 3 suits at Penny's for my two boys and husband for less than $500 tax and all. Sales items and nice suits.
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05-21-2012, 12:45 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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But maybe you are wrong and it does matter that hair is long (some think the best way to keep it long is to not cut it). Personally I believe God is not pleased with butch cuts on women...
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Do you believe that God was displeased with men and women who took a Nazarite vow wherein they allowed their hair to grow and then shaved their heads at the end of the vow? You see, while I believe that long beautiful hair is a woman's glory... I do not believe that it matters to God either way. I mean, is a woman struggling with cancer that has lost her hair now somehow displeasing to God???
I don't like "butch cuts" on women either. But... am I imposing my preference onto God, assuming that He thinks like me (making Him in my image)... or am I just confessing that I think it's ugly?
A four hundred $ suit is a low to moderate price. Well... maybe I should buy more suits. The most expensive suit I've purchased was $70.
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If you actually know of those who place suits and long hair before being like Jesus in character - they should come to repentance, I think all will agree there.
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The moment someone says that you have to abide by an unbiblical standard for Heaven, fellowship, or "sanctification"... be it with regards to suits... jewelry... pants... hair... make up... beards... sleeves... etc., they have elevated their traditon above Jesus.
The focus of our sanctification must be a full focus on the person of Christ, and see Him formed in us.
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05-21-2012, 12:46 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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On a side personal note.. All I have is an iPhone, I don't even have Internet at home. So it's hard for me to type and respond much. Not that I'd do much better otherwise.
I said it before.. We must all be fully persuade in our own minds.. For that is what God will ultimately judged. Along of course with how we responded to our beliefs. I want to be right with God as I'm sure most all of us do.
I just am not into dissecting and defining and redefining a bunch of words.. Like the word Prevail. If that's how you need to work out your own salvation.. Then have at it. I'm trying to just do and live what I know is right. Golden rule type stuff. No hard feelings here.. I just don't have time to debate much on this forum. God bless.
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Always be true to yourself, to your Lord, and to your understanding of God's Word. Don't compromise your integrity. Whether I agree with you or not is not important. We all will give an account to God. He is the ultimate Judge and only His opinion of us counts.
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Apostolic in doctrine
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05-21-2012, 12:51 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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Originally Posted by Aquila
It amazes me how we spit on and discount the salvation of men like Martin Luther, William Tyndale, John Huss, John Wesley, Charles Wesley, John Newton, etc.... yet we sing their hymns... we read their writings... we quote them from our pulpits (often leaving out their names)... our congregational churches are even structured after the pastoral structure they drafted. We sing worship songs written by Evangelicals; we weep, cry, dance, clap, and worship to their songs... yet we curse them as heathens. We read Bibles translated by them, and denounce that they might have an ounce of the Holy Ghost. We've become shottish children, drunken with our own arrogance and pride.
Can't we see... these great men were being used of God to reform the church? We wouldn't exist today if not for them? We'd be void of so much without the innovations of churches still steeped in so much "Christian tradition"? We wouldn't even have a King James Bible if we denounced all things that weren't Apostolic!
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The King James Bible is an Anglican (English Catholic) trinitarian Bible, promoted by a pervert (King James), authorized by civil government for use in the government/state church, and forced upon some who did not want to bow to that church/state .
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05-21-2012, 12:52 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
But maybe you are wrong and it does matter that hair is long (some think the best way to keep it long is to not cut it). Personally I believe God is not pleased with butch cuts on women...
A four hundred $ suit is a low to moderate price.
If you actually know of those who place suits and long hair before being like Jesus in character - they should come to repentance, I think all will agree there.
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That is about what you would pay for one at JCPennies, although you may get a 2nd "Free!" jacket with it.
Quite a few years ago a friend of ours came over who was still a minister in the UPC and told about his recent trip to the Texas district. He had nothing but good things to say about the their hospitality but he did tell a side story of the pastor who's house he was staying at taking him to a Suit shop where he said "And this is where the pastors buy their suits!" and apparently you couldn't buy one for under a grand -and this was 15+ years ago.
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05-21-2012, 01:04 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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The King James Bible is an Anglican (English Catholic) trinitarian Bible, promoted by a pervert (King James), authorized by civil government for use in the government/state church, and forced upon some who did not want to bow to that church/state .
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wow Sam!...
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05-21-2012, 01:06 PM
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Re: Apostolic 101
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Tim,
Always be true to yourself, to your Lord, and to your understanding of God's Word. Don't compromise your integrity. Whether I agree with you or not is not important. We all will give an account to God. He is the ultimate Judge and only His opinion of us counts.
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2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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