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Jermyn Davidson · #**841** 06-05-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

http://wreg.com/2012/03/31/family-ho...l-for-justice/

http://crayfisher.wordpress.com/2012...-hispanic-man/

These are all very tragic, and I have even spoken about how black crime that decimates our communities doesn't get the attention it deserves. There is a thread that I've started about Brian Banks that is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the psyche of many blacks in America.

However, this thread is about a very specific case that happened just up the road from where I live.

Jermyn Davidson · #**842** 06-05-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

yes He does, his house or town home what ever you want to call it is in that gated community. where do you get your info?

My friend, zim DID NOT live there-- which again, makes the whole incident even more non-sensical and tragic.

zim lived in Sanford, but not in that neighborhood.

Martin didn't live there either-- he was visiting his father who lives there.

Jermyn Davidson · #**843** 06-05-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

no intent to kill no second degree murder..... just saying.

prejudice in what way? did he show any ratial based when confronting this man?

Prejudice and racism are two different things.

Do we agree on this point?

acerrak · #**844** 06-05-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

My friend, zim DID NOT live there-- which again, makes the whole incident even more non-sensical and tragic.

zim lived in Sanford, but not in that neighborhood.

Martin didn't live there either-- he was visiting his father who lives there.

you should see the diagram layout of the gated community. it shows the club house, it shows where he parked his truck. it shows where zimmerman lived it shows where trayvons Dad's girl friends house was at, it showed where he was shot at.

The black man they interviewed from the gated community was his neighbor and lives there.(the one who said Zimmerman wasnt a racist) something smells fishy on your end.

from the defense attornies statment.

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Zimmerman maintains that he shot Martin in self-defense under Florida's "stand-your-ground" law because the teenager was beating him up after confronting him about following Martin. Zimmerman had called 911 to complain about suspicious activity. Martin was walking from a convenience store to the home of his father's fiancée in the same gated community where Zimmerman lived.

That is factual it seems like your on the media band wagon making up things as you go...

as for as the prejudice comment, cmon. I dont think he was predjudice. If we say he is predjudice then we will make him out to be a racist.

Jermyn Davidson · #**845** 06-05-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by acerrak

you should see the diagram layout of the gated community. it shows the club house, it shows where he parked his truck. it shows where zimmerman lived it shows where trayvons Dad's girl friends house was at, it showed where he was shot at.

The black man they interviewed from the gated community was his neighbor and lives there.(the one who said Zimmerman wasnt a racist) something smells fishy on your end.

from the defense attornies statment.

That is factual it seems like your on the media band wagon making up things as you go...

as for as the prejudice comment, cmon. I dont think he was predjudice. If we say he is predjudice then we will make him out to be a racist.

I live 30 minutes from where this unfolded.

zim didn't live in the community where he killed Martin.

Can a person have a prejudice and not be racist?

The accusations of zim being racist were short-lived and never held any water. The NATIONAL OUTRAGE surrounding this case is that the local police decided to not investigate this senseless death.

Of course, there is an element of race involved in what happened, but doesn't mean that zim is racist. However, I do think he acted out of prejudice.

acerrak · #**846** 06-05-2012, 11:09 AM

i Just want to point out That the man had called the police on suspects of recorded 46 times, and out of that 9 people called for suspicous activity, also public records...

the man was doing his Task as community watchman.

acerrak · #**847** 06-05-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I live 30 minutes from where this unfolded.

zim didn't live in the community where he killed Martin.

Can a person have a prejudice and not be racist?

The accusations of zim being racist were short-lived and never held any water. The NATIONAL OUTRAGE surrounding this case is that the local police decided to not investigate this senseless death.

Of course, there is an element of race involved in what happened, but doesn't mean that zim is racist. However, I do think he acted out of prejudice.

i dont care if you live with in five miles from him, or went out for afternoon tea with the guy. The police statments say it. the attornies defend it. even the prosecution admits it..

Prosecutors To Argue George Zimmerman "Profiled" And "Confronted" Trayvon Martin.
-where ... In the gated community Zimmerman lived in because he did not recognize martin.

again your just believing what the media tells you. the records have went public. do a search on this stuff...

acerrak · #**848** 06-05-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Can a person have a prejudice and not be racist?

depends on the subject. however you want to look at it one will make it a predjudice thing tword blacks, because he was the black thug in the hoodie (so to speak).

and once you isolate it down to race, then it becomes a racist thing. it is why the fbi has been debating about charging him with a hate crime.

look i have nothing against black people, but if you go look at the statistics of the break down of crime in america, who commits most of it?

If i say the majority of crime in america is done by blacks, i am labeled as predjudice or a racist even though my facts are true.

Jermyn Davidson · #**849** 06-05-2012, 11:49 AM

acerrak,
zim didn't live there.

He lived in Sanford, but he didn't live in that gated community.

As for the difference between prejudice and racism, it does exist.

The vast majority of militia men are white and have their own guns. Should I look at every white male with a gun as someone who is a militia member? I could, but that would be an example of prejudice.

Prejudice doesn't even have to be about race. Prejudice implies a pre-judging without knowledge-- whether it is character, intents, quality, etc.

It is human nature to be prejudiced. It is decent and wise to not act on every prejudicial thought and impulse.

It is very rare when our prejudice leads to the death of another person-- but that is what happened in this case.

Initially, Martin wasn't doing anything suspicious. He was suspicious looking. When Martin sensed trouble, he initially tried to get out of the area of trouble.

zim's prejudice is what drove this tragedy-- doesn't mean he's a racist.

acerrak · #**850** 06-05-2012, 12:29 PM

1st show that he didnt live in the gated community. please give me some evidence. cause i have found many evidence stating he did. So im not going to take your word for it. Show me a reliable source. cause everything i have posted can be found by doing searches.

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It is human nature to be prejudiced. It is decent and wise to not act on every prejudicial thought and impulse.

absolutly i agree with this. but lets face it majority of every predjudical thought the root is really do to racism or dealing with being a sexist, etc

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It is very rare when our prejudice leads to the death of another person-- but that is what happened in this case.

Initially, Martin wasn't doing anything suspicious. He was suspicious looking. When Martin sensed trouble, he initially tried to get out of the area of trouble.

this is just your personal speculation.