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Old 07-06-2012, 08:29 PM
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Re: Is there anyone who is Apostolic anymore?

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I've heard UC preachers preach:
if your Pastor tells you to stand on your head and gargle peanut butter you better do it.
If your Pastor preaches against wearing red, you can't wear red.
You have to wear pantyhose at all times when you leave your house.
Some preached that women can not wear heels, only flats.
I could go on and on but my husband is calling me, be back later.
One of my pastors told the congregation that if his pastor told him not to drink Dr. Peppers, then he would not drink Dr. Peppers.

This is simply a control issue when statements like this are made.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:34 PM
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:10 PM
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Re: Is there anyone who is Apostolic anymore?

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Paul didn't follow Peter when Peter drifted off into legalism. Peter made some serious errors in judgement which Paul bluntly pointed out and Peter hastily retreated. The key phrase "As I Follow Christ." Legalism is dead religion.
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Thank you.
Oh, so any pastor that doesn't preach scripture as you interpret it then he is wrong and thus not following Christ. Gotcha

See, there are pages and pages of debate here and it all boils down to how each one interprets scripture.

But of course that doesn't matter really, cause your the only ones that are right. Right ?
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:12 PM
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...But of course that doesn't matter really, cause your the only ones that are right. Right ?



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Old 07-06-2012, 09:25 PM
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Don't see how you came up with that conclusion. Paul was furious with Peter for acting like a legalist. Paul was furious with the legalists trying to enforce legalism on the Galatian church. Subjective standards cannot be used as a criteria for heaven or hell. Paul told the Galatians he taught them better. In my opinion legalism is more dangerous to the church than homosexuality. Paul says the enforcement of subjective opinions as a condition of salvation is witchcraft. The principle is legalism is a tool Satan uses to keep the focus away from the cross.

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Oh, so any pastor that doesn't preach scripture as you interpret it then he is wrong and thus not following Christ. Gotcha

See, there are pages and pages of debate here and it all boils down to how each one interprets scripture.

But of course that doesn't matter really, cause your the only ones that are right. Right ?
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:27 PM
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Some people ignore the Bible because it contradicts their theology. They make the Bible say what it wants it to say. No one can take legalists seriously because they are always looking for loopholes.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:44 PM
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Re: Is there anyone who is Apostolic anymore?

Heb . 13:17's "obey" ("peitho") "to be persuaded by"...


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Old 07-06-2012, 10:21 PM
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Heb . 13:17's "obey" ("peitho") "to be persuaded by"...


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Then we find the word submit in that same verse.

hypeikō :1) to resist no longer, but to give way, yield (of combatants)

2) metaph. to yield to authority and admonition, to submit

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Old 07-06-2012, 11:01 PM
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Paul was furious with Peter for acting like a legalist.
Actually, I think Peter was playing the hypocrite, not the 'legalist'.

But then again, that would be determined by what 'legalism' is.

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Then we find the word submit in that same verse.

hypeikō :1) to resist no longer, but to give way, yield (of combatants)

2) metaph. to yield to authority and admonition, to submit

Strong's G5226

Yip, sho do.
Sometimes ya gotta hold'm to the book(bereans) tho, cause every great now and then they can get off into "teaching for doctorines the commandments of men" that is a stumbling block to the Kingdom of God, just as Jesus addressed to those pharisees that lost the Kingdom. And a good leader will always be open to, and desire scriptural accountability, dealt with in the right spirit of course. (IMO)
Take the no facial hair rule to partcipate in "inhouse church ministry" for example, besides eyebrows of course...
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