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Old 07-13-2012, 08:17 AM
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Re: Make Sure you have the Right Bible !!

Also, leaving out the last half of Mark 16 may indeed be the right move. The fact is that after verse 8, what we have in the KJV doesn't appear in most of the oldest manuscripts that are found. Just a month or so back they found scripts from 1st or 2nd century I believe it was, and the verses after verse 8 of Mark 16 were not there.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:18 AM
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Re: Make Sure you have the Right Bible !!

OK


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Old 07-13-2012, 08:22 AM
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Re: Make Sure you have the Right Bible !!

I'm not an NIV fan btw. I personally prefer the KJV, but I understand that we probably never will have a Bible that has it 100% perfectly delivered to us as it was to the writers. KJV is about 95% accurrate to the oldest scripts, but even the oldest scripts are in many cases incomplete.

We will likely never have the complete Word of God in our lifetimes. So we hold dear what we have and live by it.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:27 AM
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I'm not an NIV fan btw. I personally prefer the KJV, but I understand that we probably never will have a Bible that has it 100% perfectly delivered to us as it was to the writers. KJV is about 95% accurrate to the oldest scripts, but even the oldest scripts are in many cases incomplete.

We will likely never have the complete Word of God in our lifetimes. So we hold dear what we have and live by it.
there error is not which translation you use. the error is putting any specific translation or version on a pedastol and saying its infallible or with out error.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:30 AM
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I'm not an NIV fan btw. I personally prefer the KJV, but I understand that we probably never will have a Bible that has it 100% perfectly delivered to us as it was to the writers. KJV is about 95% accurrate to the oldest scripts, but even the oldest scripts are in many cases incomplete.

We will likely never have the complete Word of God in our lifetimes. So we hold dear what we have and live by it.
5% that is not accurate, There is whole stories that didnt appear in the bible to way later that is in the new kvj, some new translations keep them out of tradition but some completly remove them. there is also the johannine comma. such things that didnt enter to around 1600 a.d. im not for sure off the top of my head.

However I think all these can lead you in your faith to grow in the love of God,
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Re: Make Sure you have the Right Bible !!

My preference is KJV.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:36 AM
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Re: Make Sure you have the Right Bible !!

I would not use a Bible whose publishers are intent on giving us a 'gender neutral translation'.

Also, NO BIBLE uses 'the original manuscripts' or even 'the oldest manuscripts' alone. ALL translations are based on a TEXT, created from the existing copies of manuscripts.

THEN the text is translated into the chosen language.

I happen to believe the KJV is the most powerful, most elegant, and richest translation in English. It is also based off a different TEXT than what is used for the NIV, NASB, and many other versions.

Describing the differences between the KJV and the NIV without explaining the difference in underlying TEXT fails to accurately reflect what those differences are, and WHY those differences exist.

Also, just because SOME of the 'oldest manuscripts' are missing verses doesn't mean anything except that some old, barely (or never) used copies of Scripture had stuff missing from them (which might explain why they were barely or never used).

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Re: Make Sure you have the Right Bible !!

BTW... here's a question:

If we do not have the TRUE WORD OF GOD, if indeed EVERY bible has errors in it... how then can we know if we are reading the truth?

Just wondering...
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:42 AM
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Re: Make Sure you have the Right Bible !!

I have a little trouble believing that this is even an issue among people with computers.

I have Biblesoft...There have to be at least 25 (or more) bibles in that program that can be viewed simultaneously as well as multiple reference works...

I can view any verse in almost any version and read commentaries galore about why one versions rendering is more/less accurate then anothers....

So pardon me for saying this almost seems silly.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:46 AM
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BTW... here's a question:

If we do not have the TRUE WORD OF GOD, if indeed EVERY bible has errors in it... how then can we know if we are reading the truth?

Just wondering...
what did the early church have when they didnt have bibles? Maybe faith.. just saying romans didnt come around till 50 a.d. so before that new testament christians used the old testament bible
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