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Old 07-14-2012, 08:04 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!

WOW! how old is this daughter anyway? she sounds to me like she might be the one who is getting a bit senile! Who, in their right mind, calls the saints to ask them for their tithes - especially when you know that you've already ticked them off! Fruity if you ask me!
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:07 PM
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The board did try to appoint him, and the majority of the people said no, so they finally agreed to a vote( the daughter and *****and the "board"), but he lost. If you weren't there you would never believe the scene the daughter and her friend made. As I said, tomorrow is most of the peoples last day, and they are leaving after Sunday School. The daughter has been calling some of them and asking for their tithes. I'm sorta glad it is coming to an end, so these good people can come together and worship without all this evil spirit in the church. I can remember over the years all the singing and shouting,and speaking in tongues, everyone loving one another. We used to have a great choir, and was asked to sing at other churches. A great time with great memories! I do not want these great people to get bitter and lose out because of about 20 people. We are all going to make it and be better people and christians as a result. The other one's, God have mercy, I wouldn't want to be in their place.
I see, so they already tried the board route and there was a backlash. Oh, I would believe the scene. Truth is always stranger than fiction. I'm not sure why anybody is going tomorrow but I hope you can all find peace.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:08 PM
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WOW! how old is this daughter anyway? she sounds to me like she might be the one who is getting a bit senile! Who, in their right mind, calls the saints to ask them for their tithes - especially when you know that you've already ticked them off! Fruity if you ask me!
Well, maybe she wants to kick some more people out.
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:25 PM
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Some of the ladies are going because one of them that was "kicked out" said she is going anyway, and they are worried that something might happen. Also, the wife and daughter are going to take down Bro ****** picture. It is hanging in the Fellowship Hall which is named for him. He would turn over in his grave if he could see what is happening now. He has been gone 28 long years, but never forgotten. When he preached, he would stand on the alter bench, reach way down, and sing "When He Reached Down His Hands For Me". What a great, great man, he would never in a million years have hurt anyone. He is missed. ( The daughter is almost 60)
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:37 PM
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Some of the ladies are going because one of them that was "kicked out" said she is going anyway, and they are worried that something might happen. Also, the wife and daughter are going to take down Bro ****** picture. It is hanging in the Fellowship Hall which is named for him. He would turn over in his grave if he could see what is happening now. He has been gone 28 long years, but never forgotten. When he preached, he would stand on the alter bench, reach way down, and sing "When He Reached Down His Hands For Me". What a great, great man, he would never in a million years have hurt anyone. He is missed. ( The daughter is almost 60)
The wife and daughter of the recently passed pastor are taking down the picture of what person who has been gone for 28 years? (Sorry just trying to understand.)
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:39 PM
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"Wounded"

You plowed over me like a tractor
You used me up and put me out to pasture
I'm left to eat your dust
Guess you're thinkin' that we must be done
You said you got my back every minute
Well you do
You've got it there to put your dagger in it
And knowing what i need
Still you stood and watched me bleed

[Chorus:]
Wounded, I'm wounded
I'm battered and broken and bruised
Wounded, I'm wounded
All tore up inside over you
Wonderin' why you do me like you do

I feel betrayed and so manipulated
I call a spade a spade, you call me jaded
Well, what do you expect
You give me no respect

[Chorus]

And this monkey on my back
Has stopped me in my tracks

[Chorus]
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Old 07-14-2012, 08:40 PM
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T The daughter has been calling some of them and asking for their tithes.
Ha! If I were one of those saints and the daughter called me asking for tithes she would get the rebuking it sounds like she so desperately needs.

I can't believe there are not some of this deceased pastor's former associates who won't stand up for his congregation against the daughter.

I have a feeling it may be that over the last few years as the pastors health declined he acquiesed more and more to the daughter's will so by the end it may be hard to distinguish what the pastors actual desires were vs what his daughter wanted. Particularly if any element of dementia or alzheimers was involved at the end.

One thing I do know is that true justice will occur in the end. If not here on earth it will on judgement day when all of our deeds are laid bare.

People that turn works for God into carnal situations that are manipulated for money and security will answer to God and if that is what is going on here there will be a judgement that may not be immediate but it will be final someday.
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The wife and daughter are of one of the ministers, and elders of the church. Not the late pastor. He has been gone 28 yrs. The pastor died a few months ago. The other minister was one of the earliest members. His wife is 89 yrs old but very sharp. This will be her last day there.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:06 AM
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My thoughts and prayers are with the members of the "wrecked church", as today will certainly be an emotional day for all of them! I pray they never lose their joy, their hope and their faith! But.....most of all, don't lose your praise! ( somebody hold the mule while I dance a little!)

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The former late pastor did not give the mantle to the "local" preacher. The late pastor had been sick for quiet some time, some dementia even. This was his daughter's choice. He even said to the members that he did not think ***** was able to pastor a church. But, he always did what his daughter wanted.
I don't know if the daughter chose this man or not, all I know is our dear departed pastor put his assistant pastor in place as pastor in January of this year. I will agree that at times our deceased pastor suffered from dementia. The point is and should be no matter who picked him the majority of the Church members do not want him. We had a vote and now he is trying to overturn that vote which he lost. Everyone is trying to blame the daughter she has no power except what the acting pastor and the Trustee Board allows her to have. I do not care for this woman, but I do believe in putting blame where it belongs, she can't help it if the men can be led around like sheep.
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