Politics is "Of the World?" - Page 15

bbyrd009 · #**141** 03-01-2012, 12:35 PM

I think this is justified by Christ's tacit admission that earthly kingdoms are all run by satan at the end of "Christ's temptation."

I understand that this might not be popular with someone heavily invested in the process, and for that I am sorry. Although ones pursuit does help to define them, they inevitably make an impact far broader than the circles we might draw as humans, and my feeling is you were where you were supposed to be at the time.

If you are convicted that attempting to change that system from within is your calling, then I would not try to dissuade you. I merely wish to provide another reflection for those who will naturally come to their own conclusions.

Get back to you on Rom.

bbyrd009 · #**142** 03-01-2012, 12:46 PM

I probably adhere to Rom 13 more literally than average, as a result of my belief. At least the avg Joe has looked at me pretty strange, for some little adherence. Yes, they are ordained by God, and they are to be obeyed. Anarchy is below Gov, not above.

And, you got Hitler, also "ordained"--he didn't seize power or anything; but rather was duly elected after trying to seize power--good luck with that. When do you stop following those laws? = when do you stop going along with fascism = what is fascism = when do you stop following those laws.

Timmy · #**143** 03-01-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bbyrd009

I probably adhere to Rom 13 more literally than average, as a result of my belief. At least the avg Joe has looked at me pretty strange, for some little adherence. Yes, they are ordained by God, and they are to be obeyed. Anarchy is below Gov, not above.

And, you got Hitler, also "ordained"--he didn't seize power or anything; but rather was duly elected after trying to seize power--good luck with that. When do you stop following those laws? = when do you stop going along with fascism = what is fascism = when do you stop following those laws.

And the US founding fathers were in violation of Rom 13, too.

bbyrd009 · #**144** 03-01-2012, 01:13 PM

Lol, yup, every decision that proceeds from a bad premise will be bad from some perspective.

The Matt · #**145** 03-01-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

And the US founding fathers were in violation of Rom 13, too.

Only thing is, the British were in violation contradicting God's will by forced religion which wasn't in truth...

bbyrd009 · #**146** 03-01-2012, 01:32 PM

Well, but that would seem to open the door for any disrespect of law not deemed to be in keeping with truth?

Timmy · #**147** 03-01-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Matt

Only thing is, the British were in violation contradicting God's will by forced religion which wasn't in truth...

If it were true, would revolution have been sin?

bbyrd009 · #**148** 03-07-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy

If it were true, would revolution have been sin?

Wow, that's a good Q...violence is sin, to me, so my knee-jerk is "yes."
But...

bbyrd009 · #**149** 03-07-2012, 12:09 PM

A big tell for me is, would I want to revolt in that scenario? Only too easily. Therefore, it would prolly be a sin for me.

bbyrd009 · #**150** 08-18-2012, 05:06 PM

Psalm 2:1-4, NAS
1 Why are the nations in an uproar,
And the peoples devising a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth take their stand,
And the rulers take counsel together
Against the LORD and against His Anointed:
3 “Let us tear their fetters apart,
And cast away their cords from us!”
4 He who sits in the heavens laughs,
The Lord scoffs at them.