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10-07-2012, 03:56 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin
I am shocked at the responses and attitudes of some of you. Why it shouldn't be any problem understanding that that guy called a pastor should sit with you and your family into the wee hours of the morning at the hospital as your loved one is dying and then get his tired ____ out of bed in an hour or so, and go on to his job, working at the steel mill, plumbing shop, carpentry or what ever else he does to pay his bills and making a living for his family. And if he should be too tired to come to the hospital, why it would be time then to elect a new pastor.
And by the way, when it's time to bury your loved one be sure you set the funeral after the pastor's working hours. He can't afford to take off time from his job to conduct a funeral service. Why I'm sure you wouldn't expect that.
Now I'm not for a pastor getting rich from the church. But I do believe that a pastor that is called of God is worthy of being taken care of as a church is capable of doing.
And when your son or daughter is in jail I hope that there is time for the pastor, after he gets off from work, to go and see them. Some folks don't deserve a pastor.
I am and have been a pastor for many years and some of this talk that goes on by some of you makes a preacher ask "why?" why should I care about them, they don't care anything about me, or the work of the Gospel. Why should I spend sleepless nights over a congregation that doesn't appreciate the time I spend.
In some things attitude sure plays a major role, (and that includes the pastors, too) and some folks "attitudes stink!" Well thanks for giving me a chance to have my say. And by the way I don't and have never got rich working for the church. And another thing, I have given folks money out of my own pocket and then when they get their "burr under their saddle" they simply walk off without saying a word.
Let me say this in closing. There are some greedy, self-serving, only thinking of themselves pastors..... and there are some stingy, selfish conniving church members who don't deserve a good pastor, who cares.
Been Thinkin (about this for a long time!)
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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10-07-2012, 04:37 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
Get real. there's no comparison.
I think a lot of people who are against paying
a hard working pastor a decent wage are just
plain cheap.
Yet, they themselves are members of
radical trade unions demanding more and more.
I have seen it in the past and I see it now.
Money seems to be the "God" of a lot of church
goers.
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You missed the point. You made it see as if they did not need money back then.
That is absolutely not true
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10-07-2012, 04:47 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You missed the point. You made it see as if they did not need money back then.
That is absolutely not true
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Maybe you would be happy if modern pastors had "no place to lay their head" like Jesus.
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10-07-2012, 04:51 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy
Maybe you would be happy if modern pastors had "no place to lay their head" like Jesus.
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Once again you are being dishonest.
I never said modern pastors should be poor and homeless.
You have a clear pattern of being dishonest with what others say or don't say
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-07-2012, 04:52 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
All of the Pastors I have had were/are awesome men. None of them lived above their means. And they worked HARD taking care of their congregation and the church. I believe very strongly that their reward in heaven will pale in comparison to all the quacks that Lord over their saints. And live high on the hog on Earth.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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10-07-2012, 04:58 PM
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Once again you are being dishonest.
I never said modern pastors should be poor and homeless.
You have a clear pattern of being dishonest with what others say or don't say
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OMG! I think I will just not respond to ANYTHING from you.
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10-07-2012, 05:00 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy
OMG! I think I will just not respond to ANYTHING from you.
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If that is what has to happen to not be falsely accused of saying something I did not say, so be it
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-07-2012, 05:00 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Are others called to Pastor?
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Originally Posted by Cindy
All of the Pastors I have had were/are awesome men. None of them lived above their means. And they worked HARD taking care of their congregation and the church. I believe very strongly that their reward in heaven will pale in comparison to all the quacks that Lord over their saints. And live high on the hog on Earth.
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Amen.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-07-2012, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy
Maybe you would be happy if modern pastors had "no place to lay their head" like Jesus.
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He wasn't even alluding to that. You're a completely a complete moron!
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10-07-2012, 05:12 PM
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