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Old 10-14-2012, 11:44 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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You caught that too?

Thanks you my friend.
I did too. Sorry I did not speak up
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Old 10-15-2012, 02:58 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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I think I'm pretty consistent, I see everyone on the same level, if you are in a position of leadership, and you hurt someone, then you have opened up yourself to a higher judgement than I could ever dish out. Everyone gets a turn at the wheel.

Correct?
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:37 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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Since there seems to be little difference when it comes to moral failings, what is the purpose of holiness "standards"? They apparently don't stop a wandering eye or unmoral thoughts and actions!
is it possible that being so obsessed about keeping women under wraps makes the forbidden fruit all so more desirable.

and apparently men are insatiable? David had how many wives and concubines when he commanded Bathseba to bed him?

The most beautiful actresses in the world have husbands that cheat on them.

So, it doesn't matter how much women cover/don't cover themselves, whether you live in a Muslim or western society, how many women you are permitted to marry, what religion you are, whether you speak with the tongues or men or of angels, men are susceptible to adultery, rape, incest, child molesting, human trafficking, ect ect.

So yeah, righteous Lot throws his daughters out to the men of sodem to be raped, concubines are raped and cut to pieces and used to rally tribes for war. Preachers with impeccable holiness standards commit adultery and rape their own daughters.

Oh, we thought it was safe behind these walls, but no, we are sleeping with the enemy.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:31 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

When liberals fall it's because there's no standards...

When cons/ultra-cons fall it's because of standard/legalism...




How about they quit praying/maintaining their relationship with Jesus Christ?

Right now we are on some twisted merry-go-round filled with rants from ex-Apo's and comments from cynics. To the ex's, we get it, you think standards are of the devil (just admit it and move on). To quote T.F. Tenney, some are wondering/worried about the left and right wing, we need to worry about the whole bird.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:10 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

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The irony is rich.

Here's how the Standards Keepers state their case:

1. Those who leave standards will eventually leave sound doctrine.
2. Hence, those who leave standards will become drunken adulterers.

I imagine the men you mentioned felt a mixture of loss and pity.
Brother, like I've told you over and over again, you are upset mainly due to your own fault. Being ecclesiastically lazy is no way for any minister to be, while having an ecclesiastical mid life crisis, and lashing back at his peers a bit pathetic.

Those who leave standards, then leave doctrine? APOs blah, blah, blah?

What happened to you? Do you believe everything you believed since you came out from under your once beloved organization? Again, with all due respect, you are making broad brush observations, If you feel so passionately about this, send everyone you ever collected tithes from (while YOU were a standards preacher) their money back.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:13 AM
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:51 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

EB, is there less moral failure among ultraconservatives than elsewhere?
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:54 AM
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If you feel so passionately about this, send everyone you ever collected tithes from (while YOU were a standards preacher) their money back.
How is that even possible once the org takes them from the pastor?
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:59 AM
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How is that even possible once the org takes them from the pastor?
Are you talking about the Brazilian organization God Is Love?
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:03 AM
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Are you talking about the Brazilian organization God Is Love?
No, the UPC.
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