Modesty Myth

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

There was a male coworker who had the ladies going nuts over him that had upmost respect for my wife and treated her different because of how she carried herself and presented herself.

While men should respect all women a respectable women makes it alot easier to do so. goes both ways

I have seen this in my own experience. When I was a bartender, of course not living for God, I never dressed provocatively and I never used foul language. I saw how much men respected that and I received a lot more tips. I was a good Catholic, mostly.

I am proud of your wife and my husband for their conduct in the workplace. Some of the guys ask my husband to pray for them even though he doesn't ever preach to them. He is a strong, manly man, but also remains a good example. He is someone our son can be proud of and look up to.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Maybe thats why I dont have the problem of women going bananas for me when working.

Maybe they know you are godly and wouldn't dare. Women respect that in a man. They also like having a good man around that they can trust.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Maybe they know you are godly and wouldn't dare. Women respect that in a man. They also like having a good man around that they can trust.

True, A new nurse to the floor looked my hand stating no ring so I'm not married, I told her I was and one of my lady coworkers added "he is the most married man I know".

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

True, A new nurse to the floor looked my hand stating no ring so I'm not married, I told her I was and one of my lady coworkers added "he is the most married man I know".

Now THAT is awesome!!!!!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

It's kind of hard to think we could solve this problem as we are all guided by our natural five senses - hearing, sight, smell, touch, and touch.

I saw a young man sacking groceries last week. A young women, wearing shorts, was at the next register and had her basket loaded. The sacker finished, very quickly, with the person at his register and made his way to the women with the shorts, saying, "Would you like some help out with this?" LOL!

I'm not sure men will stop wetting on themselves like little puppies. Is that even possible?

But, yes, I can agree that Christian men should be gentlemanly to all women. Not sure his little heart won't pitter patter between the two choices.

I don't expect it to be easy for men to keep themselves in check, and I don't intend to make my posts sound as if it is. I just feel that the idea that you only treat ladylike women respectfully is a secular view--not a Christian one. I'm sure men will always struggle with keeping their flesh under control; that's normal. I'm mainly talking about when men seem to give themselves internal permission to behave badly because the woman in question is dressed or behaving badly.

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

True, A new nurse to the floor looked my hand stating no ring so I'm not married, I told her I was and one of my lady coworkers added "he is the most married man I know".

Definitely a great compliment!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I don't expect it to be easy for men to keep themselves in check, and I don't intend to make my posts sound as if it is. I just feel that the idea that you only treat ladylike women respectfully is a secular view--not a Christian one. I'm sure men will always struggle with keeping their flesh under control; that's normal. I'm mainly talking about when men seem to give themselves internal permission to behave badly because the woman in question is dressed or behaving badly.

I would be more concerned with a man giving himself "outward" permission to behave badly. Because, I think that by his nature, keeping it to himself "internally" shows greater restraint.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I would be more concerned with a man giving himself "outward" permission to behave badly. Because, I think that by his nature, keeping it to himself "internally" shows greater restraint.

I agree.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I would be more concerned with a man giving himself "outward" permission to behave badly. Because, I think that by his nature, keeping it to himself "internally" shows greater restraint.

I guess I'm not making my point clear. I mean, when a woman doesn't give him direct or tacit permission, but he gives himself internal permission to behave badly outwardly because of how the woman presents herself.

Bad behavior starts with an inward decision that it's acceptable. I'm not talking about having involuntary thoughts and responses and then bringing them under control. That's fine--and admirable. If, instead of squashing those thoughts, you then decide that it's okay to act accordingly because the woman in front of you isn't respectable, then that is giving yourself internal permission to behave badly.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I guess I'm not making my point clear. I mean, when a woman doesn't give him direct or tacit permission, but he gives himself internal permission to behave badly outwardly because of how the woman presents herself.

Bad behavior starts with an inward decision that it's acceptable. I'm not talking about having involuntary thoughts and responses and then bringing them under control. That's fine--and admirable. If, instead of squashing those thoughts, you then decide that it's okay to act accordingly because the woman in front of you isn't respectable, then that is giving yourself internal permission to behave badly.

Yes, bad behavior starts with an inward decision, but so does good behaviour.

So then we have to get into a man's nature and what he should or should not feel guilty about. Not all men are going to act badly. I know that mine doesn't, but I have seen his eyes, on occasion, when an attractive women passes. I didn't happen to have a dagger on hand, but that's beside the point.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I guess I'm not making my point clear. I mean, when a woman doesn't give him direct or tacit permission, but he gives himself internal permission to behave badly outwardly because of how the woman presents herself.

Bad behavior starts with an inward decision that it's acceptable. I'm not talking about having involuntary thoughts and responses and then bringing them under control. That's fine--and admirable. If, instead of squashing those thoughts, you then decide that it's okay to act accordingly because the woman in front of you isn't respectable, then that is giving yourself internal permission to behave badly.

Kind of like a church leader doing a double take at a young girl walking out of Wal Mart in short shorts. And being kind of flirty with the young women in the church. And thinking nobody noticed. He was just considered "friendly" by some.