Something went wrong when a generation of young people left the church. But they didn’t just leave, they left broken, bruised, offended, bitter, and have grown distant from the church. And now willingly and openly ridicule and mock their humble beginnings in ignorance. Those that had callings on their lives now walkout their days with dreams unfulfilled. Young people that were swindled out of their inheritance by the evil manipulation of the devil, or chased out from a pulpit manned by an arrogant dictatorial demanding preacher or the hypocrisies of double standards of those in authority and in their homes.
I weep for the unnecessary and or willful loss. Who will grieve with me? Better yet, who will pray with me that they will return?-Joel Barnaby
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Not everyone ridicules and mocks. They're the more visible and noticable ones. Most just get on with their lives. Some post on AFF with witty and/or annoying banter, but it's not ridicule or mocking. Is it?
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Not everyone ridicules and mocks. They're the more visible and noticable ones. Most just get on with their lives. Some post on AFF with witty and/or annoying banter, but it's not ridicule or mocking. Is it?
I don't know the answer to that, Timmy. But, do we want them to return to the same system they left in the first place?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Something went wrong when a generation of young people left the church. But they didn’t just leave, they left broken, bruised, offended, bitter, and have grown distant from the church. And now willingly and openly ridicule and mock their humble beginnings in ignorance. Those that had callings on their lives now walkout their days with dreams unfulfilled. Young people that were swindled out of their inheritance by the evil manipulation of the devil, or chased out from a pulpit manned by an arrogant dictatorial demanding preacher or the hypocrisies of double standards of those in authority and in their homes.
I weep for the unnecessary and or willful loss. Who will grieve with me? Better yet, who will pray with me that they will return?-Joel Barnaby
Miss C, I have seen time after time, where some of the young people are not accepted into "cliques" that are totally spoken against from the pulpit...(but then are some pastors/churches who dont really have a love for their youth) they are shunned for different reasons and it is sad. Once my daughter (who got the Holy Ghost when she was 11 at Youth Camp under Jeff Arnold, and had been baptised since 8 by Rev Keith Clark) she had fell out after she married a person who was not in church and of a different faith...well, she came back on and off because she said she felt God pulling her back...many people had been praying for her, so she and this man decided to seperate for reasons of abuse and other things. We knew God was answering a prayer...but when she came back, she had on pants, in which I was just
so happy she was coming back I never spoke of her clothes, I was going to allow God to deal with her and believed she would come back to how she was raised in time. She attended 2 times and went to the alter, God was dealing heavily with her. My heart was happy. After a moving service and wonderful alter service, she went to the bathroom where a few of the young girls caught her and "lit into her" about her clothes and told her she would never be a part of them or anyone....long story made short....that was the last time she came. ;*-( She is bitter to this day and we pray for her daily. She still asks her dad to pray for her when she is sick :-) so I know she still feels something. I ask for your prayers for her and my son of whom has the Holy Ghost and has been baptised since a very young age. They both are the 4th generation Apotolic. I have placed my son "on the alter" as he is so far out of control it is heart breaking. Asking anyone who reads this for your prayers for my children. I pray for all the young people in every church.....for they are the future coming church!
May the sun bring you new energy by day, the moon softly restore you by night, may the rain wash away your worries, may the breeze blow new strength into your being, may you walk gently through the world and know it's beauty all the days of your life~
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*• ¸.•*☆ *♥ ☯♪♥ N ҉ A ҉ M ҉ A ҉ S ҉ T ҉ E ♥♪☯
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Miss C, I have seen time after time, where some of the young people are not accepted into "cliques" that are totally spoken against from the pulpit...they are shunned for different reasons and it is sad. Once my daughter (who got the Holy Ghost when she was 11 at Youth Camp under Jeff Arnold, and had been baptised since 8 by Rev Keith Clark) she had fell out after she married a person who was not in church and of a different faith...well, she came back on and off because she said she felt God pulling her back...many people had been praying for her, so she and this man decided to seperate for reasons of abuse and other things. We knew God was answering a prayer...but when she came back, she had on pants, in which I was just
so happy she was coming back I never spoke of her clothes, I was going to allow God to deal with her and believed she would come back to how she was raised in time. She attended 2 times and went to the alter, God was dealing heavily with her. My heart was happy. After a moving service and wonderful alter service, she went to the bathroom where a few of the young girls caught her and "lit into her" about her clothes and told her she would never be a part of them or anyone....long story made short....that was the last time she came. ;*-( She is bitter to this day and we pray for her daily. She still asks her dad to pray for her when she is sick :-) so I know she still feels something. I ask for your prayers for her and my son of whom has the Holy Ghost and has been baptised since a very young age. They both are the 4th generation Apotolic. I have placed my son "on the alter" as he is so far out of control it is heart breaking. Asking anyone who reads this for your prayers for my children. I pray for all the young people in every church.....for they are the future coming church!
This sad on so many fronts! When will we learn that rules and traditions of man don't save or even bring us closer to God but in fact they enslave us and separates us from the Grace of God. I pray that your children find a church that preaches Christ and Him crucified for that is the Gospel.
Reading your post I am reminded again why I left!
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Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
Scripture is its own interpreter. Nothing can cut a diamond but a diamond. Nothing can interpret Scripture but Scripture" Thomas Watson.
Last edited by navygoat1998; 01-24-2013 at 10:12 AM.
I will be praying for you and your children, GC. The message may be right, but how it's preached may not always be led by the Spirit. Because kids and young people sometimes see the "image" only. And others see "through" it to the spirit behind it. Sadly that is where bitterness enters. This also happens to adults, and is passed down to their children, and so it spreads.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
This sad on so many fronts! When will we learn that rules and traditions of man don't save or even bring us closer to God but inf act they enslave us and separates us from the Grace of God. I pray that your children find a church that preaches Christ and Him crucified for that is the Gospel.
That teaches Grace and Law. Reading your post I am reminded again why I left!
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
I will be praying for you and your children, GC. The message may be right, but how it's preached may not always be led by the Spirit. Because kids and young people sometimes see the "image" only. And others see "through" it to the spirit behind it. Sadly that is where bitterness enters. This also happens to adults, and is passed down to their children, and so it spreads.
How right you are. I have let my children know after they knew of the TPC tragady that there was anger at first, but after much prayer, I am no longer angry, maybe hurt but allowing God to heal the hurt while praying for everyone who was and is a part of this tragady, including TB.
May the sun bring you new energy by day, the moon softly restore you by night, may the rain wash away your worries, may the breeze blow new strength into your being, may you walk gently through the world and know it's beauty all the days of your life~
(¯`•´¯) ★.¸¸.•*♥
*• ¸.•*☆ *♥ ☯♪♥ N ҉ A ҉ M ҉ A ҉ S ҉ T ҉ E ♥♪☯
✿°`'•.¸¸＊°✿✿°`'•.¸¸＊°✿✿°`'•.¸¸＊°✿
This sad on so many fronts! When will we learn that rules and traditions of man don't save or even bring us closer to God but in fact they enslave us and separates us from the Grace of God. I pray that your children find a church that preaches Christ and Him crucified for that is the Gospel.
May the sun bring you new energy by day, the moon softly restore you by night, may the rain wash away your worries, may the breeze blow new strength into your being, may you walk gently through the world and know it's beauty all the days of your life~
(¯`•´¯) ★.¸¸.•*♥
*• ¸.•*☆ *♥ ☯♪♥ N ҉ A ҉ M ҉ A ҉ S ҉ T ҉ E ♥♪☯
✿°`'•.¸¸＊°✿✿°`'•.¸¸＊°✿✿°`'•.¸¸＊°✿
Sincere young men were mentored in churches that preached the gospel, Spirit and Truth. Unfortunately sometimes tacked on to that truth were the traditions and attitudes of man. Along came a generation that questioned the additions and let it be known that they didn't see it the way it was handed down to them. And here we are today, recovering from the backlash. Some have softened their approach. Some have broken away to rebuild. Some have fallen by the wayside their spirits wounded and broken. Some are just hardened and have walked away. Oh that my head were waters, and my eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people!
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