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02-08-2013, 02:47 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
Again, thats doesn't apply either. He was invited to an event that was specifically for the propose to offer comfort to others. It wasn't A CHURCH service or even a religious rally. It was a time for people of a community whither Christian or other to come together in support of each other in a time of grief and loss.
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02-08-2013, 04:01 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Recently a upci church wanted to purchase advertising for aan upcoming conference being held at their church on K-Love radio.
K-Love would not sell them time and the upci pastor gpt all bent out of shape and posted on his FB page how he was going to change his listening habits and no longer listen to K=Love radio.
My thought was this...What did you expect pastor??
They have a policy not to let Jehovahs Witness and Mormons on THEIR Radio station.
The UPCI is not looked at much differently than the JW's and mormons.
The radio station is well aware of the articles of faith of the upci, that "we" don't believe there is salvation outside of speaking in tongues and being baptized specifically in Jesus name
Truth is, many of us won't even associate with or prayer with other protestant or Catholics.
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thats not in the UPCI articles of faith
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-08-2013, 04:07 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
I was with a high fever at Dialysis. I asked the social worker if she believed in Jesus and if he heals. She said yes so I asked for prayer.
I was in the hospital once and this young volunteer came in. She was Lutheran. I asked her to pray. She took my hand and prayed then commented that she felt like I had a lot of faith.
I dont know about you but when I need prayer and a Oneness person is not immediatly available I will have someone call on Jesus regardless.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-09-2013, 11:32 AM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I was with a high fever at Dialysis. I asked the social worker if she believed in Jesus and if he heals. She said yes so I asked for prayer.
I was in the hospital once and this young volunteer came in. She was Lutheran. I asked her to pray. She took my hand and prayed then commented that she felt like I had a lot of faith.
I dont know about you but when I need prayer and a Oneness person is not immediatly available I will have someone call on Jesus regardless.
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I totally agree Praxeas, I have had many trinitarians petition Heaven on my behalf and I cherish those prayers as much as I do those of my Apostolic family!
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Apostolic is an understanding that God has finally and completely revealed Himself to all mankind through His incarnation as Jesus Christ. He has revealed to all a way of life, love and forgiveness that leads to a right relationship with Him and with each other.
~Repairing the Apostolic Church, Apostle W. Carey & Bishop N. Morales
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02-09-2013, 12:28 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
I see nothing wrong with joining in prayer with people with whom i may not agree with on every point of doctrine but to go to a place and join in an event where other (idols) gods(false) are recognized and being prayed to. Is not right.
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02-09-2013, 12:51 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
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Originally Posted by Barb
Prax, this sectarian view of 'us 4 and no more' is so silly.
Joining in prayer, even with those who pray to Allah or whoever, does not denote agreement.
As someone noted, Elijah let the other dudes pray, and then he called on Jehovah.
What's the problem in that?
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Ditto me on this post. I think it is absurd for Christians not to participate in something like this. It would be a travesty to let something like this go on without a minister representing the one true God in a prayer service.
The idea that a Christian ministers presence there condones those other religions is about as logical as saying that because I drive by the Islamic Center in my town every day on my drive I support Islam.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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02-09-2013, 12:51 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
Luke, How isn't it right? I could see your point had the Pastor recognized any false god in his prayer but He didn't. He was simply there to minister and live out his calling to reach out to those in need.
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Apostolic is an understanding that God has finally and completely revealed Himself to all mankind through His incarnation as Jesus Christ. He has revealed to all a way of life, love and forgiveness that leads to a right relationship with Him and with each other.
~Repairing the Apostolic Church, Apostle W. Carey & Bishop N. Morales
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02-10-2013, 12:06 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
To go to a place and take part in a service/vigil where false gods are recognized is not right. As far as I know this only happened in the Bible once with Elijah and that did not turn out well for the false prophets. Also that was only to show God's power over false gods.
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02-10-2013, 01:05 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I was with a high fever at Dialysis. I asked the social worker if she believed in Jesus and if he heals. She said yes so I asked for prayer.
I was in the hospital once and this young volunteer came in. She was Lutheran. I asked her to pray. She took my hand and prayed then commented that she felt like I had a lot of faith.
I dont know about you but when I need prayer and a Oneness person is not immediatly available I will have someone call on Jesus regardless.
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that's great Prax! I love you Bro and I will be keeping you in my prayers. 
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02-10-2013, 01:36 PM
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Re: Lutheran Pastor Apologizes For Praying
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I was with a high fever at Dialysis. I asked the social worker if she believed in Jesus and if he heals. She said yes so I asked for prayer.
I was in the hospital once and this young volunteer came in. She was Lutheran. I asked her to pray. She took my hand and prayed then commented that she felt like I had a lot of faith.
I dont know about you but when I need prayer and a Oneness person is not immediatly available I will have someone call on Jesus regardless.
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Absolutely!I have friends (some right her on AFF) that honestly believe that God does not hear the prayers of those who have not followed the 3 step plan of salvation. That kind of thinking baffles me.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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