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Old 03-25-2013, 09:45 AM
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Re: 10 Reasons Against Gay Marriage

When I look around at the acceptance of the gays and lesbians by our government, I think back on Sodom and Gomorrah which was destroyed for multiple sins including men laying with men and women with women. Then I think how much longer can the world last if they were destroyed for the same thing that has been going on in this day and age.
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I only have one reason against Gay marriage.
It is an abomination in God's eyes and that is enough for me.
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Re: 10 Reasons Against Gay Marriage

we are having this discussion because the church sold its birthright for a bowl of social security benifits.

We decided that we would allow the state to replace God in the marriage contract so we could get special benifits from the state for being married. It worked out nicely for a while... then marriage began to fall apart. and the government was no longer populated by people who believed in the God the church believes in.

Guess what? What the state gives the state can take away.

Now the church is just SHOCKED the the culture moved away from God and the secular government is reflecting that reality. We are fighing a secular government in the name of the God we abondoned years before.


Gay people cannot be married. it is impossible. I dont care what the state says. God does not agree to things he calls sin.

I just wonder what God thought about or religious leaders who abandoned God as a party to the marriage contract in favor of the state?


Lets get real people, the only way to protect the church and the people of God from this secular menace is to abandon the state in favor of God in marriage.
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Nothing more ridiculous and a bigger stink in Gods nostrils than for a man to say "this is my husband".....or a woman to say "this is my wife"...... or for a child to say I have 2 mommies or 2 daddies???? or for them to THINK they are really married in the eyes of God. Bump that~~~!!! It is sick and twisted!!!! I do not care how many states "legally" marry 2 of the same sex....in GODS eyes is all that counts and it will NEVER stand!!! To think "they" want the rest of the world to see this as "normal"..... but it will never be normal ..... no more normal than a pedophile/registered sex offender/child molester would become a "well loved and respected babysitter" for all the neighborhood kids..... get real! It is an ABOMINATION and a SIN!!!
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:17 AM
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Nothing more ridiculous and a bigger stink in Gods nostrils than for a man to say "this is my husband".....or a woman to say "this is my wife"...... or for a child to say I have 2 mommies or 2 daddies???? or for them to THINK they are really married in the eyes of God. Bump that~~~!!! It is sick and twisted!!!! I do not care how many states "legally" marry 2 of the same sex....in GODS eyes is all that counts and it will NEVER stand!!! To think "they" want the rest of the world to see this as "normal"..... but it will never be normal ..... no more normal than a pedophile/registered sex offender/child molester would become a "well loved and respected babysitter" for all the neighborhood kids..... get real! It is an ABOMINATION and a SIN!!!
no bigger stink in Gods nostriles? really? Harming children? I beleive that is something he indicated was seriously a problem for him.... homosexuality is one of the "and such were some of you" sins. your freakout is missplaced.

"normal" is not the issue. Sin is in fact quite "normal". It is the "normal" condition for a lost and dying world. It is even the "normal" state for saved folk because we all....every single one of us.... struggle with some sin. "normally" we only have one or two areas that are serious struggles for us as individuals but we all struggle.


I humbly submit that when we as the church fight the state over something we turned over to the state, we are fighting a misplaced battle.

The state does not recognize God. It never has. It never will. The state is a beast that does only what is in the interest of its own self interest.

this is hypocracy.

Here is the simple fact. The constitution of the United States declairs that government cannot treat two people differently before the law. When the church decided to give government the rights of God in sanctioning marriage, it abondoned the RIGHT to say marriage is a covanant ordained and ratified by God. THAT SHIP SAILED.

Now the state recognizes that two people over here can get SS benifits and share healthcare benifits, but these two over here cannot. Constitutionally that simply is not justifyable. The SCOTUS will say as much by June-July this year.

Now the church is "blaming the gays" for horning in on its "sacred" rite. Sorry. It stopped being sacred when we started applying to the STATE and not GOD for a marriage license.


My point that gay people cannot be married, is not a secular view. It is a Christian religious view. It also pre-supposes that I beleive that only GOD can stamp a marriage with approval. NOT THE STATE. But we live in a land where God is excluded. Guess what? in a land where God is excluded from marriage, anything the state says can be married, can in fact be married where the state is concerned.

If you want to stop being a hypocrit, and start being a real christian, stop opposing gay marriage, and start opposing State Sanctioned marriage entirely.
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no bigger stink in gods nostriles? Really? Harming children? I beleive that is something he indicated was seriously a problem for him.... Homosexuality is one of the "and such were some of you" sins. Your freakout is missplaced.

"normal" is not the issue. Sin is in fact quite "normal". It is the "normal" condition for a lost and dying world. It is even the "normal" state for saved folk because we all....every single one of us.... Struggle with some sin. "normally" we only have one or two areas that are serious struggles for us as individuals but we all struggle.


I humbly submit that when we as the church fight the state over something we turned over to the state, we are fighting a misplaced battle.

The state does not recognize god. It never has. It never will. The state is a beast that does only what is in the interest of its own self interest.

This is hypocracy.

Here is the simple fact. The constitution of the united states declairs that government cannot treat two people differently before the law. When the church decided to give government the rights of god in sanctioning marriage, it abondoned the right to say marriage is a covanant ordained and ratified by god. That ship sailed.

Now the state recognizes that two people over here can get ss benifits and share healthcare benifits, but these two over here cannot. Constitutionally that simply is not justifyable. The scotus will say as much by june-july this year.

Now the church is "blaming the gays" for horning in on its "sacred" rite. Sorry. It stopped being sacred when we started applying to the state and not god for a marriage license.


My point that gay people cannot be married, is not a secular view. It is a christian religious view. It also pre-supposes that i beleive that only god can stamp a marriage with approval. Not the state. But we live in a land where god is excluded. Guess what? In a land where god is excluded from marriage, anything the state says can be married, can in fact be married where the state is concerned.

If you want to stop being a hypocrit, and start being a real christian, w/e...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop opposing gay marriage, and start opposing state sanctioned marriage entirely.
"FREAK OUT".......THIS IS MY POINT AND MY OPINION!!! you stated your point and i stated mine...thank you ~ and for the record...i am not a hypocrite and i am a "real" christian !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not care who does what , your veiws, what the state reconizes......etc....this is my veiw, my point and my opinion! Have a nice day~
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Re: 10 Reasons Against Gay Marriage

Let's face it... on one side we have those who believe that the STATE should regulate personal relationships and associations. On the other, we have those who believe that the STATE has no business in our relationships or personals associations.

In my mind... it's like Social Security. We know the Social Security program is bankrupt. So they are privatizing Social Security accounts. They should privatize marriage also. It should be a private contract between two private individuals in accordance to their faith and conscience.

One is either for empowering the STATE to meddle in personal relationships and associations or they are not.

I vote that GOVERNMENT get out of the marriage business altogether and let it return to being a private contract between individuals and families.
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Sorry. It stopped being sacred when we started applying to the STATE and not GOD for a marriage license.

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If you want to stop being a hypocrit, and start being a real christian, stop opposing gay marriage, and start opposing State Sanctioned marriage entirely.


Amen!

Christians should stop groveling before the state to bless Christian marriages with the beloved state marriage license. We should marry as God joins us together and demand that the STATE stay OUT of our business.

Privatize marriage once again!
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:37 AM
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"FREAK OUT".......THIS IS MY POINT AND MY OPINION!!! you stated your point and i stated mine...thank you ~ and for the record...i am not a hypocrite and i am a "real" christian !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not care who does what , your veiws, what the state reconizes......etc....this is my veiw, my point and my opinion! Have a nice day~
So what you are saying is, in addition to being hysterical, you dont deal well with criticism?


LOL....


News flash my sister, you arent being hypocritical alone. ALL of American Christianity is and has been.

We have opposed state sanctioned gay marriage in the name of God while at the same time, abandoning God in our own marriages.... it is in fact hypocracy.
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for your opinions~ I am neither hypocritical nor hysterical~ I refuse to argue with people like you who always want to make an argument with people who are simply posting their own opinion. ~ End of discussion...have a blessed afternoon "my brother" ~
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