Zimmerman not guilty!!!

[Godzchild]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

I was making light of some of the silly comments I heard reading different forums! For the record, I don't believe GZ was innocent, and the jury didn't say he was innocent. He certainly made errors in judgment that led to a confrontation. He is guilty of causing the confrontation that started the ball rolling in this tragedy. I personally believe maybe there should be some amount of punishment for his accountability to that. I've made plenty of errors in judgment that caused a confrontation. Thank God I'm not sitting behind bars for that!

The jury voted that GZ was not guilty of the charges that the state presented. My thoughts and prayers go with the parents of both TM and GZ. The Martins are having to come to grips with not only losing their son, but watching his killer walk free. The Zimmermans now have to live their lives in fear of death threats just because they are GZ's parents. There is no winner here!

[StillStanding]

Some are asking, "What are we going to tell our children so they will feel safe from people like George Zimmerman?"

Here's my answer to my grandchildren:
1. Don't dress or act suspicious when you're in an unfamiliar place, especially at night.
2. Don't assault anyone because they are keeping an eye on you.
3. If you think someone is following you....assume they are armed and RUN!!!!!!!!!! If you have a phone, Call 911! Scream for help to get attention of those nearby WHILE YOU'RE RUNNING! Don't stop until you're home safe!
4. If you want to avoid a confrontation with a watchman from a gated community that has a hero complex, don't cut thru yards at night in his neighborhood.
5. If the store is a mile away and you want some snacks at night, have someone give you a ride, or wait until the next day.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

I was making light of some of the silly comments I heard reading different forums! For the record, I don't believe GZ was innocent, and the jury didn't say he was innocent. He certainly made errors in judgment that led to a confrontation. He is guilty of causing the confrontation that started the ball rolling in this tragedy. I personally believe maybe there should be some amount of punishment for his accountability to that. I've made plenty of errors in judgment that caused a confrontation. Thank God I'm not sitting behind bars for that!

The jury voted that GZ was not guilty of the charges that the state presented. My thoughts and prayers go with the parents of both TM and GZ. The Martins are having to come to grips with not only losing their son, but watching his killer walk free. The Zimmermans now have to live their lives in fear of death threats just because they are GZ's parents. There is no winner here!

He wasn't charged with "error in judgment that led to a confrontation", and as far as I know they didn't charge him because it's not a "law" he broke.

He did not "cause" a physical confrontation. That's like saying a woman caused a man to rape her because of how she dressed. It was within TM's ability to NOT sucker punch GZ. In fact it was within TM's ability to keep on walking home and or call the police.

He chose a physical, violent confrontation with the "cracker" that was following him.

It's sad but that is what happened. Don't like the fact that GZ got out of his truck? Yeah, that's one thing and I'd probably agree too but that is not justification for TM to come back and confront GZ then sucker punch him.

BTW does anyone understand the reason GZ got out was he lost sight of TM? He wasn't "chasing him down on foot"

I agree "no winner here"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by barry72

Just a reminder to all you so called Christians here. No matter if Trayvon Martin was a thug, low life or a young evangelist, he didn't have to die that night. George Zimmerman took the law into his own hands, and a young man ended up dead because of that.

That's not what the evidence shows. He was a neighborhood watch. He saw someone that looked suspicious and he called Police.

TM was staring at GZ, walked towards his truck with his hand in is waistband...

At that point GZ was doing what NH is supposed to do and it appears TM confronted GZ.

I don't know what Trayvon Martin was guilty of that night, so far nothing has been proven to say that Trayvon Martin was in the wrong.

The evidence shows that TM hit GZ, knocked him down, straddled him MMA style "ground and pound" and was wailing away at his face. That is assault. He had no other injuries to suggest GZ ever struck him.

He wasn't here to tell his side of the story.

correct but there were witnesses including one eye witness

It's just sad all the way around. But as a Christian, I can't dare sit back and say that this case never should've been tried in the first place.

They are saying that because of the facts that came out in the Trial and in part by the prosecutions own witnesses that all corroborated GZ's initial story (which never changed) that TM attacked him. It has nothing to do with Christianity.

In fact Christians are supposed to love TRUTH not base their reasoning on subjective feelings

God help us. Maybe George Zimmerman had the correct intentions and there is no way he is guilty of 2nd degree murder. But George Zimmerman definitely made some mistakes that night that cost Trayvon Martin his life.

I don't believe that. What if GZ did not have a gun? He would have gotten beaten to a pulp and then so called Christians would say "GZ got what he deserved for the mistake he made"?

Maybe the shame and fear that he has to live with the rest of life with be punishment enough.

Punishment for what? He defended himself.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Godzchild

Thanks for your reasoned and informative response. #fail

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

That's not what the evidence shows. He was a neighborhood watch. He saw someone that looked suspicious and he called Police.

TM was staring at GZ, walked towards his truck with his hand in is waistband...

At that point GZ was doing what NH is supposed to do and it appears TM confronted GZ.


The evidence shows that TM hit GZ, knocked him down, straddled him MMA style "ground and pound" and was wailing away at his face. That is assault. He had no other injuries to suggest GZ ever struck him.


correct but there were witnesses including one eye witness


They are saying that because of the facts that came out in the Trial and in part by the prosecutions own witnesses that all corroborated GZ's initial story (which never changed) that TM attacked him. It has nothing to do with Christianity.

In fact Christians are supposed to love TRUTH not base their reasoning on subjective feelings


I don't believe that. What if GZ did not have a gun? He would have gotten beaten to a pulp and then so called Christians would say "GZ got what he deserved for the mistake he made"?


Punishment for what? He defended himself.

Also keep in mind that the detectives tried a ruse by lying and saying that a camera had caught the entire thing on tape. They were hoping that GZ would change his story and tell the truth to keep from being charged with lying to a police officer and impeding the investigation.

Zimmerman's answer: "Thank God!"

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by n david

GZ didn't "take the law into his own hands." What the trial testimony proved is that GZ did what he was taught to do by the Sanford PD Liaison; that is, to follow if you see someone suspicious and call the police.

This case should NOT have been tried. The Sanford PD did their job of investigating the incident and found that GZ had not broken any law. The evidence showed he acted in self defense. It only went to trial because Sharpton, Crump and the msm made it into a racial issue.

The only thing you said which I agree with is that it's sad all the way around and TM didn't have to die that night.

4 minutes...TM had 4 minutes to go home and stay safe and alive. He chose not to. He chose to ambush GZ and try to kill him. Unfortunately for TM, GZ was armed and killed him.

If Trayvon had killed GZ that night, TM would have been arrested and tried as an adult for first degree murder. He would have been convicted and GZ would be hailed as a hero for attempting to protect that community from thugs like TM. TM would have still lost his life that night one way or the other.

If TM was truly afraid, he had several options.

1. Go home.
2. HE HAD A CELL PHONE!! Call 911.
3. HE HAD A CELL PHONE!! Call Daddy!!
4. Walk to a friend's house.
5. Go back to the store.

[StillStanding]

What say ye about THIS case?

In 2009 an adult shot a 17 year old kid whom the accused said charged him after he confronted the teen and 2 others for allegedly breaking into a car. Two witnesses (the other alleged car thieves) testified that the victim did not charge the accused per his story, but instead had his hands up.

What are your first thoughts? Was injustice done? Do you need more info and facts before you express and opinion because this could be a trick question? Do you want to hear what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson said first before you express an opinion? Race? Well, isn't justice suppose to be blind?

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top...tt-not-guilty/

Read the story on the link. Sound familiar?

Still want to know the race of the accused and the victim?





















The accused is black and the victim was white!

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

He wasn't charged with "error in judgment that led to a confrontation", and as far as I know they didn't charge him because it's not a "law" he broke.

He did not "cause" a physical confrontation. That's like saying a woman caused a man to rape her because of how she dressed. It was within TM's ability to NOT sucker punch GZ. In fact it was within TM's ability to keep on walking home and or call the police.

He chose a physical, violent confrontation with the "cracker" that was following him.

It's sad but that is what happened. Don't like the fact that GZ got out of his truck? Yeah, that's one thing and I'd probably agree too but that is not justification for TM to come back and confront GZ then sucker punch him.

BTW does anyone understand the reason GZ got out was he lost sight of TM? He wasn't "chasing him down on foot"

I agree "no winner here"

Exactly when did he leave his vehicle? People are saying he did that AFTER being told not to follow, but that's not true. He had been told to follow at the beginning of this incident. The dispatch on the first call was asking him where he went, what was he wearing, etc. You can't answer those questions if you aren't following him.

The second dispatcher is the one who asked if he was following and when he said yes, he was told not to do that. He told the cops he was on his way back to his vehicle when he was confronted. So I'm puzzled why people keep saying he shouldn't have left the vehicle when he was on foot.

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

What say ye about THIS case?

In 2009 an adult shot a 17 year old kid whom the accused said charged him after he confronted the teen and 2 others for allegedly breaking into a car. Two witnesses (the other alleged car thieves) testified that the victim did not charge the accused per his story, but instead had his hands up.

What are your first thoughts? Was injustice done? Do you need more info and facts before you express and opinion because this could be a trick question? Do you want to hear what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson said first before you express an opinion? Race? Well, isn't justice suppose to be blind?

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top...tt-not-guilty/

Read the story on the link. Sound familiar?

Still want to know the race of the accused and the victim?





















The accused is black and the victim was white!

Was the accused found guilty?