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08-25-2013, 04:52 PM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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Originally Posted by Chateau d'If
Elder Reckart seems like a typical Apostolic to me.
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Not to me, not just doctrinally but his persona and that of his followers are atypical. He and his followers are easily distinguished in the same respects by how they post on facebook
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He and his followers communicate in typically bombastic Apostolic fashion. I see nothing that distinguishes him from any other Apostolic church.
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08-25-2013, 09:04 PM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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No Im saying that what I was once led to believe that he taught the truth about these foundation issues seems to be vindicated by his writings. At least from what I am seeing in the studies I looked at.
Since you know him you should be able to tell me plainly. After all you told me you believed those same things the first time I met you on Paltalk.
So does he or does he not?
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Paltalk, wow that's ancient history, now I remember you, you believed that Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind and drop on the top of a mountain.
Brother Reckart never believed in annihilation of the wicked.
I was leaning towards annihilation but was shown the error of my ways, so like a good boy I went back to the woodshed and contemplated the word.
Didn't you baptize a women from down here in Fort Lauderdale?
She came to our church in Davie Florida about 9 years ago.
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08-25-2013, 09:17 PM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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According to that list, I guess all of God's prophets, preachers, and apostles were cult leader's, headed by Jesus himself, being the chief leader...
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One on the list is "demands blind unquestioned obedience" the prophets, and Jesus weren't opposed to questions, they definitely weren't looking for blind obedience. Jesus said if the blind follow the blind they would both fall into a ditch, and therefore Jesus taught His ministers to not be blind leaders, nor have blind followers. Brother Reckart isn't opposed to questions or debate, he prints enough information on the internet, plus now (from what I heard here) he is En masseing a small army of devotees on Facebook. So, we cannot hang this label on Jesus, the prophets, or Brother Reckart, but I did read from Brother Prax that he had debated Brother Reckart on Facebook and was blocked, so that could be an issue, but I don't know all the details of the debate between the the two men.
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08-25-2013, 09:19 PM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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Not to me, not just doctrinally but his persona and that of his followers are atypical. He and his followers are easily distinguished in the same respects by how they post on facebook
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How do they post on Facebook which makes them sound similar?
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08-25-2013, 10:09 PM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
I feel sad for Bishop Gary.
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08-25-2013, 11:16 PM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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One on the list is "demands blind unquestioned obedience" the prophets, and Jesus weren't opposed to questions, they definitely weren't looking for blind obedience. Jesus said if the blind follow the blind they would both fall into a ditch, and therefore Jesus taught His ministers to not be blind leaders, nor have blind followers. Brother Reckart isn't opposed to questions or debate, he prints enough information on the internet, plus now (from what I heard here) he is En masseing a small army of devotees on Facebook. So, we cannot hang this label on Jesus, the prophets, or Brother Reckart, but I did read from Brother Prax that he had debated Brother Reckart on Facebook and was blocked, so that could be an issue, but I don't know all the details of the debate between the the two men.
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If I remember correctly, the one who wrote the blog didn't say that a cult leader had to have everything on that list, just a few characteristics of the 30 or so list items was all that was needed, which indeed God's prophets and Apostles, and yes Jesus had, especially the one about the diety speaking directly to them, and proclaiming that they have the truth...
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08-25-2013, 11:17 PM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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If I remember correctly, the one who wrote the blog didn't say that a cult leader had to have everything on that list, just a few characteristics of the 30 or so list items was all that was needed, which indeed God's prophets and Apostles, and yes Jesus had, especially the one about the diety speaking directly to them, and proclaiming that they have the truth...
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You are correct.
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08-26-2013, 12:26 AM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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Originally Posted by Chateau d'If
He and his followers communicate in typically bombastic Apostolic fashion. I see nothing that distinguishes him from any other Apostolic church.
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I don't see it as "typical" for Apostolics. Rather I see it typical for most Christian sects. However his sect is very distinguishable in how they approach others including those who consider themselves Apostolic
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-26-2013, 12:56 AM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
How do they post on Facebook which makes them sound similar?
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It's probably only going to be obvious if you witness it. You'd have to be on facebook.
However I did post some links to read...I will repost this one. It might help
http://church-matters.blogspot.com/2...rts-group.html
And here, a lot of this is in tagalog though
http://church-matters.blogspot.com/2...asons-out.html
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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08-26-2013, 06:06 AM
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Re: Crazy Stuff from Reckart followers and their l
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Paltalk, wow that's ancient history, now I remember you, you believed that Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind and drop on the top of a mountain.
Brother Reckart never believed in annihilation of the wicked.
I was leaning towards annihilation but was shown the error of my ways, so like a good boy I went back to the woodshed and contemplated the word.
Didn't you baptize a women from down here in Fort Lauderdale?
She came to our church in Davie Florida about 9 years ago.
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And while we are at it does he believe in soul sleep? I certainly don't want to give him credit for it if it is not true.
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