No, "hard core" are those who put blankets, towels, coats or some other covering over the TV in motel rooms.
A few did THAT as well!!
I remember one incident during my VERY brief stint on the bible quiz team where the "adult" assigned to our hotel room (where about 6 of us were crammed into plus him) covered the set up. Of course he was a fairly new convert (not NEW new but was only in the church a couple of years at that point) and a "pastor pleaser". In the corporate world, he would have been known as a classic brown noser.
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Oh, they were. If there was a meeting on the churches article of faith statement, half would NOT have objected to adding "and remove your television" to Acts 2:38.
The hard part for me was that I personally watched very little television even before I was forced to give it up, but I was completely addicted to Doctor Who at the time (the Tom Baker era!) which was a whole stinkin 90 minutes, once a week. It was my one release from endless church services and Junior High school.
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I just think it is a horrible idea, (yes I do have a TV, not that I watch much) but do you realize that if a child has been always deprived of candy and then that child is finally allowed to eat as much as he wants that child will not know when to stop.
I see many UPCI folks that have never seen TV before in the same situation, they will not know how to regulate their TV watching, many of them will become addicted to it and it will be a horrible thing for them.
I learned the self-discipline to watch only what I wanted and when I wanted, that is something that has never been taught to the poor UPCI brethren.
Good thing the Holy Ghost is a teacher. Which is why I think its a good Idea to strike some of these antiquated rules out of the manual. Somebody might actually have to pray through for guidance instead of consulting the UPCI book of rules.
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Good thing the Holy Ghost is a teacher. Which is why I think its a good Idea to strike some of these antiquated rules out of the manual. Somebody might actually have to pray through for guidance instead of consulting the UPCI book of rules.
Amen. I think its right thing for them to do for this reason.
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I just think it is a horrible idea, (yes I do have a TV, not that I watch much) but do you realize that if a child has been always deprived of candy and then that child is finally allowed to eat as much as he wants that child will not know when to stop.
I see many UPCI folks that have never seen TV before in the same situation, they will not know how to regulate their TV watching, many of them will become addicted to it and it will be a horrible thing for them.
I learned the self-discipline to watch only what I wanted and when I wanted, that is something that has never been taught to the poor UPCI brethren.
The preachers that are preaching against TV arent doing it because of the manual. They wont stop because the manual stops either.
steps in the right direction arent bad ideas.
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Good thing the Holy Ghost is a teacher. Which is why I think its a good Idea to strike some of these antiquated rules out of the manual. Somebody might actually have to pray through for guidance instead of consulting the UPCI book of rules.
The longer I serve the Lord the less interested I am in the world.
I do have a TV, but I go days without watching anything in it.
If I am interested in a documentary or a show, I simply use Netflix and avoid all the commercials. (I hate commercials, especially if they have nothing to do with me, commercials just waste my time, I do not want commercials, if I need something I simply go to the store and get it, my anti-commercial rant)
As far as I am concerned the TV can go into the dumpster, however my wife might not be so inclined, she will probably make me take it out of the dumpster and bring it back, she needs her daily soap opera dosage.
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The longer I serve the Lord the less interested I am in the world.
I do have a TV, but I go days without watching anything in it.
If I am interested in a documentary or a show, I simply use Netflix and avoid all the commercials. (I hate commercials, especially if they have nothing to do with me, commercials just waste my time, I do not want commercials, if I need something I simply go to the store and get it, my anti-commercial rant)
As far as I am concerned the TV can go into the dumpster, however my wife might not be so inclined, she will probably make me take it out of the dumpster and bring it back, she needs her daily soap opera dosage.
FlamingZword, you better hang on to that TV. After that last paragraph the TV may be all the company that you have for awhile.
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The longer I serve the Lord the less interested I am in the world.
I do have a TV, but I go days without watching anything in it.
If I am interested in a documentary or a show, I simply use Netflix and avoid all the commercials. (I hate commercials, especially if they have nothing to do with me, commercials just waste my time, I do not want commercials, if I need something I simply go to the store and get it, my anti-commercial rant)
As far as I am concerned the TV can go into the dumpster, however my wife might not be so inclined, she will probably make me take it out of the dumpster and bring it back, she needs her daily soap opera dosage.
MY wife's current obsession is catching up on the previous 8 seasons of Criminal Minds.
I'm partial to the "unexplained" documentary/semi-documentary type shows myself such as the one I posted a week or so ago called Joe Rogan Questions Everything as well as the Ghost Hunter type ones. I NEVER actively just sit and watch them though, rather I have them on while doing something else.
I'll stand by my earlier statement that Loren Yadon's life and ministry was destroyed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the immediate devastation that took place, the loss of everything that was close or dear. Did he rebuild, put things back together? Of course he did, he's a real man of God.
But to be dismissive of "His life and ministry was destroyed" is to be ignorant of that facts.
To read some of the posts about "get over it".......you guys have no clue. None. Zilch. You're stuck in a time warp, a parallel universe, that has no idea what the real world is like. You have no idea what it's like to be hugged and praised and unknowingly be knifed in the back at the same time, to have everything that's ever meant ANYTHING to you, stolen from you in one day and be left standing with NOTHING.
And then you get on here and rip guys like Dan Alicea because he's "Bitter". The truth is, he's trumpeting the truth and you don't like the key he's playing in. PO resorts to making fun of Baron's profile picture because PO has no real content to respond with.
You want to pretend that religious systems and denominations.....and the UPC is just one of them.....haven't destroyed people, haven't driven them to take their own lives, haven't run people through character shredders just to further their own systematic agendas, you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend.
Keep pretending. Your system is falling apart and will continue to until there's almost nothing left. At some point you'll need a new bandwagon on which to jump.
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