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Old 11-14-2013, 05:49 PM
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Re: (DKB) Muslims worship God of the Bible

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You've haven't been involved in my conversations with oneness people who use trinitarian terminology to explain why Mary couldn't be God's mother.
You're right. And I cannot fathom how a Oneness person would 'use trinitarian terminology to explain why Mary couldn't be God's mother'.
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You've haven't been involved in my conversations with oneness people who use trinitarian terminology to explain why Mary couldn't be God's mother.
That is a misnomer

There is no such thing as "Trinitarian terminology".

There is the english language and Trinitarians use it as well as other groups. Trinitarians did not invent English, nor Latin or Greek
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No, not really, because 1000 years from now humans will enjoy much better, more reliable ways to determine fraud vs. authenticity of past documentation, (ie, experts even today can smoke out doctored photographs vs. non-doctored photographs.) And even today, we can reasonably determine at least the most obvious cases of unreliable and fraudulent literature from the past, to a degree that past generations often could not.

Nevertheless, please describe when your god ever did supposedly show up for a book signing. Of course, you didn't exactly claim a god ever did show up, but rather claim that, "we would criticize it," an argument that doesn't work for educated people. Yes, agreed, if criticism is warranted by the extant evidence, then good people will criticize. Nothing new there.

So, let's forget a Barnes and Noble book signing of the New Testament. Why then can't your god show up physically himself to do ANYTHING good? There's no harm in showing who you really are to everyone every 75 years--and that practice would come to be regarded by all humans as the very basis for divine honesty and divine truth. So sad the god can't show himself, unless you wish to count those ancient tattered documents, or else count as valid the imagination of believers in those same tattered, doctored documents.

God has shown up, the fact that we exist is evidence of "HIS" showing up.
Read Gerald Schroeder's book, "The Hidden Face of God", if you want to really see God. If you really believe the Creation is a "natural" occurrence, you're just ignorant.

The creation has Wisdom at its very core, the very creation is embedded in the Eternal. "He" is not man, so how do you demand that he "show up"?? Do you have "eyes" to see "Him"? That is the real question. Since when does the ant tell the human to "show up"?? When the ant doesn't have a clue when he is actually "seeing" or stinging the human?? No, "having eyes they see not, having ears they hear not".

It is literally, "...in Him, (the Eternal), that we live and move and have our being..." Meditate on that, it will come to you. Or read Schroeder's book, it will help.

Ask to see him as He really is, not as you demand him to be, then you are positioning yourself to "see" Him.

I understand your railing against much of religion, which is full of humanity. But after while that becomes empty, leaves you even emptier. JMO
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