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Re: Does your church have discernment?
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Yes, people who believe that God gets mad about such things would be afraid of that. I'm not afraid. I wonder, do people who believe God might strike people dead for doing certain things know of any cases of God striking, say, a child molester dead? Has God ever struck a bank robber dead? An adulterer? Did he strike Saddam Hussein dead? Hitler?
But yes, it does seem that the examples we have in the Bible are only when a "man of God" is insulted or disobeyed, or someone lied about how much they gave to the church, or something. Even the Bible doesn't record God getting that angry about things like rape or murder, as I recall.
Ananias and Sapphira comes to mind in the book of Acts:
5 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.
7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?”
“Yes,” she said, “that is the price.”
9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”
10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.
Ananias and Sapphira comes to mind in the book of Acts:
5 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
3 Then Peter said, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.”
5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.
7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?”
“Yes,” she said, “that is the price.”
9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”
10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.
Yes, I had that fear-inducing event in mind when I posted. Fear is a good motivator, I suppose. (Not working with me, unfortunately. You have to believe in it to be afraid of it.)
Any modern examples?
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Re: Does your church have discernment?
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Yes, I had that fear-inducing event in mind when I posted. Fear is a good motivator, I suppose. (Not working with me, unfortunately. You have to believe in it to be afraid of it.)
Any modern examples?
Timmy, when I was a child, I didn't live in fear, but I feared that if I didn't obey my parents, I would be chastised. There are consequences to pay whether it be now or later. God is more merciful than humans are and we are blessed.
Since I don't attend church, how about you come to my house and act like that. I'll say "You're a fake!" and you can give me $100 bucks. Do you want my address??
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God is more merciful than humans are and we are blessed.
Sister this is so true! I would rather place my life in the hands of an angry God than a human anytime.
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I wouldn't want to be in either. An angry God can do much much worse to you than any human can.
He is just and His anger would be righteous. I can't see His face but I can trust His heart towards me.
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Re: Does your church have discernment?
The time will come when God will pour out his wrath upon mankind, and from the looks of things, it may be sooner than we know. I can not imagine Sodom and Gomorrah being any worse than what we see today. I will not test God no matter what.
Timmy, when I was a child, I didn't live in fear, but I feared that if I didn't obey my parents, I would be chastised. There are consequences to pay whether it be now or later. God is more merciful than humans are and we are blessed.
I don't know any humans that are less merciful than God, as depicted in the Bible.
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