All trinatarians are lost!

[Abiding Now]

Every had a discussion with a trinnie and they tell you that "you Oneness folks are Jesus only and are denying the Father"?.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Every had a discussion with a trinnie and they tell you that "you Oneness folks are Jesus only and are denying the Father"?.

I used to say that nonsense way back in 1981. I did so because that was what I was told they believed. We are all guilty of repeating what we hear instead of researching it for ourselves.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I used to say that nonsense way back in 1981. I did so because that was what I was told they believed. We are all guilty of repeating what we hear instead of researching it for ourselves.

Isn't it wonderful how the Holy Ghost leads us!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by tv1a

The devils believe in one God and are lost. Is it safe to assume oneness apologists have the same mentality as their demonic counterparts?

No it's not safe. But if you are brave go ahead. I'd never say that about others

[tv1a]

Since God was manifested in flesh, Mary was the mother of God.

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Me embarrassed? Naw. Trinnies do believe God was manifest in the flesh, they just don't believe the Father was manifest in the flesh, but the second person of the trinity.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Since God was manifested in flesh, Mary was the mother of God.

Moving along...

[tv1a]

James says nitpicking about the God head ranks so low in God's priority the devils don't do anything but shake.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No it's not safe. But if you are brave go ahead. I'd never say that about others

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by tv1a

If that was the case, the I am would have been capitalized. In the Old Testament the statement referring to deity was capitalized as I AM. The passage in John doesn't capitalize the am thus not referring to a proper name. The grammar rules show different applications thus it is not reasonable to assume Jesus was claiming to be God in that passage.

...First of all it's only capitalized if the Translators want to and you can find plenty of Translations that capitalize I AM in Jn 8:58

Second, there was no capitalization in the Hebrew or Greek.

(AMP) Jesus replied, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, before Abraham was born, I AM.(4)

(GNB) "I am telling you the truth," Jesus replied. "Before Abraham was born, 'I Am'."

(HNV) Yeshua said to them, "Most certainly, I tell you, before Avraham came into existence, I AM."

(LITV) Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham came to be, I AM!

(MKJV) Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham came into being, I AM!

(WEB) Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I tell you, before Abraham came into existence, I AM."

[tv1a]

Touchy Subject? Mary the Mother of God is a reasonable conclusion with a oneness paradigm.

Originally Posted by Originalist

Moving along...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No it's not safe. But if you are brave go ahead. I'd never say that about others

Originally Posted by tv1a

James says nitpicking about the God head ranks so low in God's priority the devils don't do anything but shake.

If that is true, why don't you stop?

BTW That wasn't what James said but that was to date the most interesting spin on scriptures I've heard in a while.

James was talking about faith and how we should have it and what it means then drew a comparison to the devils who believe there is One God and tremble. Nothing there about "nitpicking" about who and what God is...