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Old 01-09-2014, 04:47 PM
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I've been going to a UPC for 30 years and almost never use the KJV...
Yea but you are one them liberal types.
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Yea but you are one them liberal types.
I'm not Liberal nor Conservative.
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:55 PM
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I'm not Liberal nor Conservative.
To somebody we are all a conservative or a liberal.
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Old 01-09-2014, 05:01 PM
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I have personally come to the conclusion that it is not the love of money but rather the need to survive that is really the root of all evil. I save money, like most of us try to do. I do this not to simply amass riches, but due to the survival instinct. Like in the past... prior to winter, people would stock up for the long bleak months when it is cold and there is no food readily available. I may not need the money now, but when I do, it is there.

Money is just a thing, a coin, a piece of paper. You can't eat it. But, if I'm holding onto some food and you are starving and have the will and the means to overpower me and take my food to survive and leave me for dead, then that is the greater root of evil, not something superficial like money.
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If a man rapes a woman, is the love of money the root of that evil deed? Is it not, instead, the lust for power over the woman?
And how does the "lust for power and control" translate to survival?
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I'm not Liberal nor Conservative.
Ah. Lukewarm, then.
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Ah. Lukewarm, then.
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Excellent economic lesson!

I'm wondering if shazeep is referring to bartering... which is working for something in order to get something else in return, without the exchange of a dollar bill. I would see that as a worthwhile thing to do.
I would see that as worthwhile as well, but it would be very difficult to barter for everything.
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Old 01-10-2014, 08:51 AM
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Re: Survival is really the root of all evil

Let me throw out a hypothetical situation...

Suppose we are in a scenario where resources have dwindled greatly and people are broken up into groups. These groups have firearms. Group A has little to no food. Group B is well stocked in food. If, after a great battle, Group A kills Group B for the food, is not survival the reason for this evil act of Group A killing Group B?
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Let me throw out a hypothetical situation...

Suppose we are in a scenario where resources have dwindled greatly and people are broken up into groups. These groups have firearms. Group A has little to no food. Group B is well stocked in food. If, after a great battle, Group A kills Group B for the food, is not survival the reason for this evil act of Group A killing Group B?
If you are presenting this as a scenario with Christians being in both group A and B, then the group who didn't share what they had with their fellow man would not be following the second commandment of Christ.
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I would see that as worthwhile as well, but it would be very difficult to barter for everything.
Very true indeed. In some situations bartering works, but as our society is driven by the $ bill... would be very tough to live off what you could come by through bartering.
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