I will say this. I was a member of that church for nine years. I was told at one point before leaving that Edwin Young had told people not to fellowship me. When Iaasked him, he said he didn't mean it 'that way'. I joined AFF because I desperately needed fellowship and wasn't getting it at church. I was rebuked soundly for being online when Edwin Young found out, but he couldn't stop my fellowship here.
I am thankful to those who offered friendship and conversation. Conversations with a few on this board gave me courage to question things I knew were happening... and led eventually to me leaving before things got really bad. Thank you, especially ILG, Margie, Prax, Sam, and Hoovie.
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
I will say this. I was a member of that church for nine years. I was told at one point before leaving that Edwin Young had told people not to fellowship me. When Iaasked him, he said he didn't mean it 'that way'. I joined AFF because I desperately needed fellowship and wasn't getting it at church. I was rebuked soundly for being online when Edwin Young found out, but he couldn't stop my fellowship here.
I am thankful to those who offered friendship and conversation. Conversations with a few on this board gave me courage to question things I knew were happening... and led eventually to me leaving before things got really bad. Thank you, especially ILG, Margie, Prax, Sam, and Hoovie.
Thanks, missourimary. I had no idea. It's nice to know. How are things for you now?
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I will say this. I was a member of that church for nine years. I was told at one point before leaving that Edwin Young had told people not to fellowship me. When Iaasked him, he said he didn't mean it 'that way'. I joined AFF because I desperately needed fellowship and wasn't getting it at church. I was rebuked soundly for being online when Edwin Young found out, but he couldn't stop my fellowship here.
I am thankful to those who offered friendship and conversation. Conversations with a few on this board gave me courage to question things I knew were happening... and led eventually to me leaving before things got really bad. Thank you, especially ILG, Margie, Prax, Sam, and Hoovie.
What a powerful testimony to hear that healing can take place within the pages of AFF. Coming out of a very controlling situation like that is very, very difficult. Was it just you, or did you have family members who left with you?
I will say this. I was a member of that church for nine years. I was told at one point before leaving that Edwin Young had told people not to fellowship me. When Iaasked him, he said he didn't mean it 'that way'. I joined AFF because I desperately needed fellowship and wasn't getting it at church. I was rebuked soundly for being online when Edwin Young found out, but he couldn't stop my fellowship here.
I am thankful to those who offered friendship and conversation. Conversations with a few on this board gave me courage to question things I knew were happening... and led eventually to me leaving before things got really bad. Thank you, especially ILG, Margie, Prax, Sam, and Hoovie.
Praise the Lord
How are you now?
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
I hope you are doing well. Breaking from a cult wears a person down. Keep plowing ahead.
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Originally Posted by missourimary
In a church like his, there is little restriction on offenders.
Last time I attended, the boys were still being encouraged to forgive and forget it ever happened, and told that God would heal them if they just trusted Him... without counseling.
I was a member there until 2009. There are probably still those who don't think he did anything, and there are definitely still many who are dealing with things that his dad did to them.
For those who've said this thread isn't edifying. perhaps we should ask the question: what should be done differently to prevent these things from happening? In that area, if you left Faith Tabernacle you'd have to drive an hour or more to attend an Apostolic church-and churches people left Faith Tabernacle to attend were refered to as trash cans... inferring those who left and went to them were aarbage. Closer churches would refuse to accept those who wanted out-a prime example of why move-ins shouldn't be refused or stigmatized. Westberg himself used to say there were hundreds of 'backsliders' in the area, and counted anyone who left without permission (for any reason other than marriage or ministry with his blessing) as backsliders. There are many more now. What should be done for them? What could prevent these things from happening in the future?
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
I'm doing well, thanks! I moved twice, once a year ago and then more recently, to a great job situation. I may be the only person in history that got an awesome job by going to a yard sale, but it happened!
None of my family went to Faith Tabernacle, so that helped immensely. Having time to think before leaving, to realize that some of the things that were happening there were NOT normal in other Apostolic churches (again, thanks, AFF), that maybe I didn't go to 'the best church in the universe' as people in Faith Tab said, and to work through what I should do helped too.
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
How are things for you now?
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