End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Please document the assertion that Anna spoke out in the formal setting of a congregational setting. A setting of both men and women.

Luke 2:36And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;

37And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day.

38And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

Unless you are wanting to state that those people spoken of in verse 38 were only women..."them" refers to both men and women. She spoke to them about Jesus. This passage doesn't state how many were present or what all she told them or how long she spoke. I wish I'd been there to know and hear.

No one is trying to "negate" the sharing of the Gospel. Everyone doe take part in being witnesses but not everyone gets up an preaches.

The churches were largely house churches and being Jewish in origin, these Jew often met in Synagogues until the Synagogues were closed to Christians and tests put in place to rid the synagogue of Christians. Due to this church services are similar in some ways with the synagogue. I should add that in other ways church is far different than synagogue. For example, there is no life in a synagogue service because there is no Spirit.

Of the similarities they have a book (scroll in Bible days) that is read from and a man provides an exposition of the written word. In church there is a Bishop, the husband of 1 wife, that reads the scriptures and gives an exposition.

As to the "we Americanize the Bible too much" may be a confession of sorts but the men I know look for the truth regardless of cultural concerns. However, the point that we should recognize is that there is a difference in culture and time between now and then. Part of the church order Paul addressed was the qualifications for Bishops and Deacons.

It is true the church is composed of people not construction materials. And like any other construction project everything must be done decently and in order. Paul gave instructions for the order by ordering the qualifications for Bishops etc. Everything requires organization. Acts 20 gives insight into the heartbeat of Paul. He calls for the elder's of the church (v. 17) and then proceeds to tell them his course of life and how he went from house to house and publicly teaching Christ. He goes on and in v.28 states that the Holy Ghost had made them "overseer's" [same word as translated Bishop in 1 Tim.] and that they were to feed the church of God. There is a difference between being a witness and having the responsibility to feed the church. This is the domain of the man according to Paul.

I agree with most of what you wrote. The difference is, you are speaking merely of Pastors and Bishops. This thread is about women preaching AT ALL. That has nothing to do with what you posted above, most of which, as I stated, I agree with.

What is 'preaching'?

It's sharing the gospel. Simple. Preaching doesn't make one a preacher anymore than teaching makes one a teacher.

[Praxeas]

Have there been any anointed female preachers?

[Sister Alvear]

Concerning the ministry of prophecy during the Church Age, Acts 2:17-18 states, "And it shall come to pass, in the last days, says God, I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy." Here, Peter quotes Joel 2:28 to explain the phenomena of Pentecost. Sounds like women make noise and it is approved by God..

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Luke 2:36And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;

37And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day.

38And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem.

Unless you are wanting to state that those people spoken of in verse 38 were only women..."them" refers to both men and women. She spoke to them about Jesus. This passage doesn't state how many were present or what all she told them or how long she spoke. I wish I'd been there to know and hear.



I agree with most of what you wrote. The difference is, you are speaking merely of Pastors and Bishops. This thread is about women preaching AT ALL. That has nothing to do with what you posted above, most of which, as I stated, I agree with.

What is 'preaching'?

It's sharing the gospel. Simple. Preaching doesn't make one a preacher anymore than teaching makes one a teacher.

RWP
One Anna a prophetess (Hanna prophētis). The word prophētis occurs in the N.T. only here and Rev_2:20. In old Greek writers it means a woman who interprets oracles. The long parenthesis into Luk_2:37 tells of her great age. Montefiore makes it 106 as she was 15 when married, married 7 years, a widow 84.

The title she is given is of one who "interprets" oracles. The "speaking" is in regards to the title explicitly given.

VWS:
Spake
Not a public utterance, for which the words, those that waited, etc., would be inappropriate. It was to the pious ones who were with her in the temple, waiting for the Messiah.

If these were "with" her then this would have been those of the women due to the division between men and women in the temple and the synagogue.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

I'm still not following you. If the Word of God is the Bible, and we are all commanded to share the Gospel, which is also the Word of God, what does 'thus saith the Lord' have to do with anything, especially considering that wordspeak came about in the 17th century?

But let's say giving forth a 'thus saith the Lord' is something that comes with giving a Word from God. I'm not sure why you seem to think expounding on scripture is different, considering that scripture is the very Word of God.

Preaching is the "feeding the flock of God".
Teaching is "feeding the flock of God".

Witnessing is bringing the wayword souls home to bed by the Bishop. Two distinct applications.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sasha

1984 is the Strong's number. I also said that it seems to indicate the office of the Bishop.

Thank you.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by ILG

Not one woman here has said she wants to be a man. Good grief!

Nope. Just a few trying to act like one.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Concerning the ministry of prophecy during the Church Age, Acts 2:17-18 states, "And it shall come to pass, in the last days, says God, I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy." Here, Peter quotes Joel 2:28 to explain the phenomena of Pentecost. Sounds like women make noise and it is approved by God..

And no one has argued against the gifts of the Spirit of which Joel is speaking. However, it is clear that Bishops, with the attendant responsibility of feeding the flock of God, must be the husband of 1 wife thus mitigating against women preachers.

[Roxanne Murphy]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

The male is called a prophet and a female is called a prophetess....that is the difference!

Yes, a fact that seems to continually be ignored because it doesn't fit the theology.

And one more small detail from scripture: there aren't any records of prophets preaching/teaching from the Word of God to a congregation.

[Roxanne Murphy]

Originally Posted by Pliny

And no one has argued against the gifts of the Spirit of which Joel is speaking. However, it is clear that Bishops, with the attendant responsibility of feeding the flock of God, must be the husband of 1 wife thus mitigating against women preachers.

Why is the assumption made that only a Bishop can be a preacher? The scripture doesn't say this.