End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[Dordrecht]

Ok, so….ladies are suppose to speak at revivals?

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

When people start fussing if a woman can be a part of the 5 fold ministry I always think of 35 And James and John, the sons of Zebedee, come unto him, saying, Master, we would that thou shouldest do for us whatsoever we shall desire. Mark 10:

36 And he said unto them, What would ye that I should do for you?

37 They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory.

38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?

What does it matter what title people think we have?
Don't worry about titles just do the work HE called you to do...

I have walked in churches and the pastor called me a true apostle...lol...other places I have been called a lady prophet...others have called me a great evangelist....others have called me a teacher...However I am none of the above....I am a missionary....a servant....a handmaiden of the Lord and a mother in Israel....

People that fuss and fight over who is who seem to have an inferior complex...Why knock the other person? If you do not believe in them or their calling...then fulfill YOUR calling...Remember it was Jesus that said, for whoever is not against us is for us.

So why try to destroy some lady preacher? Even if you do not believe in them they carry the same message of Christ and work for Him?

Maybe you cannot have lunch with them but you don't have to try to destoy one person that carries the gospel message....

My calling, as an ordained minister, is to take a stand for Biblical truth. Seems to me the one's fighting and fussing are the one's who want to act like a man and be a Bishop. it is not about feigning hurt or destruction of someone else, which is nothing more than a straw man argument to shift the focus from didactic teaching to emotional subjectivity. Let the emotions reign! Besides there is no such thing as a lady preacher. Should we ask why destroy the word of God to establish an emotional appeal? I have not and neither have I seen RDP try to destroy anyone. In fact as I recall he said he honors the sacrifice etc. Still that does not give any of us, no matter what sacrifice we make, the authority to interpret scripture from emotional appeals. Is a Bishop a man or a woman? Does it matter? I say absolutely! It is clear that the Bishop must be a man.

They worship Him MUST worship in spirit and in TRUTH.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Huldah participated in the biggest spiritual revival of her Nation. How did she do that? BY giving the word of the LORD to the king and to the priests....THUS SAITH THE LORD....It is interesting to note that the priests turned to a woman for God's Word when many men of God were also advisors to the King. The prophets Habakkuk, Jeremiah and Zephaniah were also active prophets of God during this time. We find no rebuke from these men to Huldah...and God sent a great revival to the priesthood....

Duh... Of course Jeremiah etc. did not rebuke Hulda from operating in the gift of the Spirit. A donkey did this once as well. Are we therefore to conclude that we should go to the zoo to hear a word from God? It's the same logic.

No one has ever said a woman cannot be used in the gifts. But this has been mentioned already. There is truly nothing new under the sun. As mentioned before everyone can operate in the gifts of the Spirit and I would challenge us all to be in a place where God can use us. But the Bible is clear, the Bishop is a man.

[shag]

I do not agree w women as Elders/shepherds/bishops, however, my wife and I have a friend, that is a woman, she is the wife of a man considered a pastor because everyone comes to their house thruout the week for advice, because they trust his counsel, they have housechirch meetings once a week, but most of their ministry takes place thruout the week as I mentioned, he doesn't really consider homself a pastor, but most everyone else does, anyway back to his wife, she knows Hebrew very well and she is very welcome to come over and teach me and others willing to learn, including men, the scriptures in the way of Hebrew words and meanings. She is the only person I know of personally that knows Hebrew well, and is passionate about Christ.

Is that error against the scripture?

[Dordrecht]

Ok, so females CAN speak at revivals?
That's permitted?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

Umm, okay, nice commentary, but I asked if you believe a woman can teach men in the church? Anyone can copy-paste from Logos commentaries (which I knew you would start with ). Has nothing to do with mere "cultural traditions" - Paul appeals to the created order as his support for the prohibition - not "culture" - silly.








Ummm, okay - not interested in mere "commentators" - only the biblical grammar & data. Dr. Grudem puts the speculative (& flawed) argument that "some women had not been properly instructed in Ephesus" in the grave where it belongs: http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Fe.../dp/1581347340


Did you not read the emails from Dr. Wallace that I have regarding the specific syntax of I Timothy 2.11-14? This is the most in-depth exegetical rejoinder to the commentators you've referenced (& has stood without serious challenge for almost a decade now): http://www.amazon.com/Women-Church-A.../dp/080102904X


Here's a brief-succinct review of the thesis: http://andynaselli.com/wp-content/up..._1tim_2121.pdf


Check back in tomorrow to continue the party !

I don't really know for sure. I'm wondering why Paul said "I don't allow" rather than "The Lord does not allow".

Those commentaries seem to suggest it was more of a cultural issue as well as a linguistic issue (seeing teach and authority as one issue)

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rdp

Umm, okay, nice commentary, but I asked if you believe a woman can teach men in the church? Anyone can copy-paste from Logos commentaries (which I knew you would start with ). Has nothing to do with mere "cultural traditions" - Paul appeals to the created order as his support for the prohibition - not "culture" - silly.








Ummm, okay - not interested in mere "commentators" - only the biblical grammar & data. Dr. Grudem puts the speculative (& flawed) argument that "some women had not been properly instructed in Ephesus" in the grave where it belongs: http://www.amazon.com/Evangelical-Fe.../dp/1581347340


Did you not read the emails from Dr. Wallace that I have regarding the specific syntax of I Timothy 2.11-14? This is the most in-depth exegetical rejoinder to the commentators you've referenced (& has stood without serious challenge for almost a decade now): http://www.amazon.com/Women-Church-A.../dp/080102904X


Here's a brief-succinct review of the thesis: http://andynaselli.com/wp-content/up..._1tim_2121.pdf


Check back in tomorrow to continue the party !

BTW I didn't post these for you but for everyone to read and consider

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Pliny

My calling, as an ordained minister, is to take a stand for Biblical truth. Seems to me the one's fighting and fussing are the one's who want to act like a man and be a Bishop. it is not about feigning hurt or destruction of someone else, which is nothing more than a straw man argument to shift the focus from didactic teaching to emotional subjectivity. Let the emotions reign! Besides there is no such thing as a lady preacher. Should we ask why destroy the word of God to establish an emotional appeal? I have not and neither have I seen RDP try to destroy anyone. In fact as I recall he said he honors the sacrifice etc. Still that does not give any of us, no matter what sacrifice we make, the authority to interpret scripture from emotional appeals. Is a Bishop a man or a woman? Does it matter? I say absolutely! It is clear that the Bishop must be a man.

They worship Him MUST worship in spirit and in TRUTH.

I really feel like we walk in truth...I do not appreciate a couple of the remarks by RDP however no hard feelings on my part. I will keep doing what God has had me to do for the past century...I have never lost the wonder that HE CALLED...

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Duh... Of course Jeremiah etc. did not rebuke Hulda from operating in the gift of the Spirit. A donkey did this once as well. Are we therefore to conclude that we should go to the zoo to hear a word from God? It's the same logic.

No one has ever said a woman cannot be used in the gifts. But this has been mentioned already. There is truly nothing new under the sun. As mentioned before everyone can operate in the gifts of the Spirit and I would challenge us all to be in a place where God can use us. But the Bible is clear, the Bishop is a man.

You sound like someone else I know...No need to compare a women that God uses with a donkey...But if you want to go to a zoo that is fine with me...just come to Brazil I will take you to the jungle....lots of animals there with the wild indians...

[Sister Alvear]

some have stated they have no problem with a woman prophet but have problems with a woman preacher...that seems so odd to me....