If God is going to be accused of genocidal mania, permissive of rape, incest, and all the other evils mentioned in this post, I would like to see some Scriptural proof in which God commands and commends the very things He's being accused of.
I have already shown how the conquest of Canaan was not genocide, by any definition of the word, but rather was justice against a wicked and immoral people at the national level.
Nobody seems to mind how many Germans and Japanese we sent to Hell less than 70 years ago.
But when people read of Israel righteously invading a foreign land to do the same thing as we did in WWII, and bring about a similar justice at the command of God, then everyone gets all bent out of shape and thinks of it as some great evil unworthy of the God they say they want to worship.
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That sounds like saying we all should not believe the same thing because we are each a different being and species than the other. . Commonality in belief does nothing against individuality., Words lose all meaning when TRUTH is subjective. There is no truth in that case.
This is where philosophy overshadows reality.
i'm seeing a reflection here with our definitions of 'worship,' which has a different definition than 'follow' to us. We might all believe in the same thing, the Good News, and yet may understand or practice this in quite different ways, and still be led by the Spirit. We even have parables for this.
I believe it may be a central function of forgiveness, as reality at least can be quite subjective--I think Einstein even proved this.
One honors a certain day, and another honors every day; but all do it to the Lord paraphrased?
If God is going to be accused of genocidal mania, permissive of rape, incest, and all the other evils mentioned in this post, I would like to see some Scriptural proof in which God commands and commends the very things He's being accused of.
I have already shown how the conquest of Canaan was not genocide, by any definition of the word, but rather was justice against a wicked and immoral people at the national level.
Nobody seems to mind how many Germans and Japanese we sent to Hell less than 70 years ago.
But when people read of Israel righteously invading a foreign land to do the same thing as we did in WWII, and bring about a similar justice at the command of God, then everyone gets all bent out of shape and thinks of it as some great evil unworthy of the God they say they want to worship.
...disregarding that we are not in that dispensation, and that those stories are not being retold in approval, but to illuminate some raw truth. In each of those stories of rape or incest are central points that seem to be being missed? I mean, we have stories about people under siege eating their own children, too--doesn't mean God recommends it.
...disregarding that we are not in that dispensation, and that those stories are not being retold in approval, but to illuminate some raw truth. In each of those stories of rape or incest are central points that seem to be being missed? I mean, we have stories about people under siege eating their own children, too--doesn't mean God recommends it.
Good points you make! The world was a rough place back then and life was violent at times, just as it still is in some places. Even if Israel had marched into the promised land unopposed they probably would have had to eventually fight to defend themselves and their territory. Of course the people that they did not eliminate were always a problem for them.
...disregarding that we are not in that dispensation, and that those stories are not being retold in approval, but to illuminate some raw truth. In each of those stories of rape or incest are central points that seem to be being missed? I mean, we have stories about people under siege eating their own children, too--doesn't mean God recommends it.
Absolutely correct. God's silence or lack of immediate retributive action upon all sin everywhere is not a sign of His approval or commendation, but rather an act of HIS MERCY.
If God requited every person for their sins the moment they sinned, there wouldn't be a human race around to sin.
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Good points you make! The world was a rough place back then and life was violent at times, just as it still is in some places. Even if Israel had marched into the promised land unopposed they probably would have had to eventually fight to defend themselves and their territory. Of course the people that they did not eliminate were always a problem for them.
I am trying to be careful with my words, but the testimony of Scripture is clear. A certain someone HATES Israel and her Seed, and will stop at nothing to demonize her and her history in the eyes of the world so the Messiah that sprang from her is likewise rejected.
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If God is going to be accused of genocidal mania, permissive of rape, incest, and all the other evils mentioned in this post, I would like to see some Scriptural proof in which God commands and commends the very things He's being accused of.
I have already shown how the conquest of Canaan was not genocide, by any definition of the word, but rather was justice against a wicked and immoral people at the national level.
Nobody seems to mind how many Germans and Japanese we sent to Hell less than 70 years ago.
But when people read of Israel righteously invading a foreign land to do the same thing as we did in WWII, and bring about a similar justice at the command of God, then everyone gets all bent out of shape and thinks of it as some great evil unworthy of the God they say they want to worship.
Being interpreted:
"God is good and just so all his wars and commands must be good and just"
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If God is going to be accused of genocidal mania, permissive of rape, incest, and all the other evils mentioned in this post, I would like to see some Scriptural proof in which God commands and commends the very things He's being accused of.
I have already shown how the conquest of Canaan was not genocide, by any definition of the word, but rather was justice against a wicked and immoral people at the national level.
Nobody seems to mind how many Germans and Japanese we sent to Hell less than 70 years ago.
But when people read of Israel righteously invading a foreign land to do the same thing as we did in WWII, and bring about a similar justice at the command of God, then everyone gets all bent out of shape and thinks of it as some great evil unworthy of the God they say they want to worship.
Of course, no one here condones the Holocaust.
I believe this should be taken more metaphorically than literally. That's just my opinion and I'm sure you don't agree but I'm just being honest...
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