The Hobby Lobby Decision

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I think most of our children have more liberal thoughts than we do.

I think that is natural but .

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

I think that is natural but .

Yes, my daughter has great faith in God, but her thoughts are a lot more liberal than mine.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes, my daughter has great faith in God, but her thoughts are a lot more liberal than mine.

My daughter is agnostic. So is my son. But when you consider what we went through, I toyed with agnosticism for a bit too. I think trauma does that to a person. I can deal with agnosticism. But I can't deal with a liberal. LOL!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

My daughter is agnostic. So is my son. But when you consider what we went through, I toyed with agnosticism for a bit too. I think trauma does that to a person. I can deal with agnosticism. But I can't deal with a liberal. LOL!

Hmmm, I'll have to think about that one.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Hmmm, I'll have to think about that one.

Well, having veered over that way, I understand how someone can question if there is a God or not ( different than atheism where you say I KNOW there is no God). But liberal thought processes seem just messed up to my way of thinking and open the door for a lot of self justification if allowed to take root.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

Well, having veered over that way, I understand how someone can question if there is a God or not ( different than atheism where you say I KNOW there is no God). But liberal thought processes seem just messed up to my way of thinking and open the door for a lot of self justification if allowed to take root.

I really don't see the difference between the two, but I still need to think about it. Having never questioned there being a God, I don't know what that feels like.

We are such flawed people, I can't blame that on God. Mainly, because I've been in enough prayer meetings, had many of my own, to know that when your heart lines up (humbled) toward God, we are very good people toward each other. Too bad we don't live in a perpetual state of prayer.

The worst experience in the world is to bump heads with a Christian full of hateful pride. It's actually like meeting a murder, IMO. Just my observation.

I remember Nona Freeman saying that she walked into a church and was astonished by what she felt. She said, "God! What is this?!" He responded, "Perfect unity". How interesting, at her age, and everywhere she has gone to teach and preach, she didn't feel that very often.

I try to read my Bible through every year. Some years I only read the NT. Last year I read both OT and NT. For the first time on reading the OT, I kept thinking, "Good grief people! Get your act together!". It was never God's fault these people were selfish and stupid.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I really don't see the difference between the two, but I still need to think about it. Having never questioned there being a God, I don't know what that feels like.

We are such flawed people, I can't blame that on God. Mainly, because I've been in enough prayer meetings, had many of my own, to know that when your heart lines up (humbled) toward God, we are very good people toward each other. Too bad we don't live in a perpetual state of prayer.

The worst experience in the world is to bump heads with a Christian full of hateful pride. It's actually like meeting a murder, IMO. Just my observation.

I remember Nona Freeman saying that she walked into a church and was astonished by what she felt. She said, "God! What is this?!" He responded, "Perfect unity". How interesting, at her age, and everywhere she has gone to teach and preach, she didn't feel that very often.

I try to read my Bible through every year. Some years I only read the NT. Last year I read both OT and NT. For the first time on reading the OT, I kept thinking, "Good grief people! Get your act together!". It was never God's fault these people were selfish and stupid.

Alright well, I better get back on the Hobby Horse. LOL!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

Alright well, I better get back on the Hobby Horse. LOL!

Me too! I have five pieces of furniture to finish in two weeks. Lots of detail. I've been working on them between posts.

[KeptByTheWord]

I've enjoyed reading through your discussion ILG and PO... good luck with your birthday discussion with your daughter about the birth control hobby horse ILG I hope it goes well, and that your daughter can understand it more clearly.

I have a friend who raised her children very conservatively. They both went off to university, a Christian university at that, and came home staunch liberals/democrats. Apparently this is because professors demand you see things their way, and if you don't conform, you don't grade well, and they eventually persist until it is very hard to know what you believe. My friend was heartbroken when she realized both her children, raised in a loving, God-fearing, conservative home who went off to a "christian" university, both came out with liberal views.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Me too! I have five pieces of furniture to finish in two weeks. Lots of detail. I've been working on them between posts.

Wow - that's a lot of furniture to be finishing! I don't have the patience to do much of it. I know your work is amazing, I've seen the pictures of furniture that you've painted that you've posted.