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Old 08-13-2014, 01:33 PM
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Should Tony Stewart be banned from Nascar?

Auto racing star Tony Stewart became a momentary video sensation two years ago for his road rage after a collision with rival Matt Kenseth. Stewart got out of his car, walked back onto the pit road, waited for Kenseth’s car to come around and threw his helmet at it. Afterwards, Stewart said, “I’m going to run over him every chance I’ve got from now until the end of the year.” The NASCAR world largely laughed it off as mere blowing off steam in a sport infused with danger, machismo, and occasional fistfights between crashed drivers. But there was no laughing Saturday as Stewart was involved in another confrontation, this time with fatal results.

In a dirt-track race in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York, a bump by Stewart sent the car of 20-year-old Kevin Ward Jr. crashing into a wall. Ward got out of his car, walked toward the middle of the track and angrily pointed his finger at Stewart’s car. As Stewart passed, his car fishtailed, hitting and killing Ward. Local authorities say there is no evidence of criminal intent by Stewart, despite his history of tempestuous behavior. Even so, NASCAR should conduct its own investigation, and keep Stewart out of competition until its completion. And if Stewart’s road rage is found to have played a role in Ward’s death, Stewart should be banned from NASCAR competition for life.
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:34 PM
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Re: Should Tony Stewart be banned from Nascar?

I say Yes, He's made threats before.
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Old 08-13-2014, 01:47 PM
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Re: Should Tony Stewart be banned from Nascar?

He definitely shouldn't race for a while, if nothing else out of respect for Ward. If NASCAR can prove he intentionally pushed Ward's car into the wall, then they should at least suspend him for a while.

I couldn't watch the videos of the part of the race where Stewart runs over Ward.

There was an article where another race driver said Stewart intentionally fishtailed. He referred to it as "mudding" someone -- intentionally fishtailing and throttling the engine to make the tires spew rocks and dirt on the person.

He may not have had murder on his mind, but it's possible he did mean to mud Ward and misjudged it.

The driver of the car in front of Stewart said he saw Ward on the track, that he doubted Stewart didn't see him.
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Old 08-13-2014, 02:12 PM
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Re: Should Tony Stewart be banned from Nascar?

If it was me and I had walked into the middle of the track on purpose and then got hit and killed, I would feel that I was at least partly to blame. The middle of the track during a race is a very dangerous place and that is not the time to fool around or try to make a point. Just saying.
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:42 PM
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Re: Should Tony Stewart be banned from Nascar?

Murder is murder, whether you use a gun, knife or a race car. jmho
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:00 PM
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Re: Should Tony Stewart be banned from Nascar?

no he stepped in front of him ps there is another video !
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:25 PM
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Re: Should Tony Stewart be banned from Nascar?

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Auto racing star Tony Stewart became a momentary video sensation two years ago for his road rage after a collision with rival Matt Kenseth. Stewart got out of his car, walked back onto the pit road, waited for Kenseth’s car to come around and threw his helmet at it. Afterwards, Stewart said, “I’m going to run over him every chance I’ve got from now until the end of the year.” The NASCAR world largely laughed it off as mere blowing off steam in a sport infused with danger, machismo, and occasional fistfights between crashed drivers. But there was no laughing Saturday as Stewart was involved in another confrontation, this time with fatal results.

In a dirt-track race in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York, a bump by Stewart sent the car of 20-year-old Kevin Ward Jr. crashing into a wall. Ward got out of his car, walked toward the middle of the track and angrily pointed his finger at Stewart’s car. As Stewart passed, his car fishtailed, hitting and killing Ward. Local authorities say there is no evidence of criminal intent by Stewart, despite his history of tempestuous behavior. Even so, NASCAR should conduct its own investigation, and keep Stewart out of competition until its completion. And if Stewart’s road rage is found to have played a role in Ward’s death, Stewart should be banned from NASCAR competition for life.
IDK NASCAR's regulations but I do know Stewart should be investigated for manslaughter (based on the two video's I watched). For Stewart to gun the throttle causing his car to fishtail when next to Ward on the track was at best very bad judgement or at worst manslaughter; I trust the authorities to do the right thing based on the evidence and not let Stewart's money and connections influence their decision in any way.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:28 PM
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Auto racing star Tony Stewart became a momentary video sensation two years ago for his road rage after a collision with rival Matt Kenseth. Stewart got out of his car, walked back onto the pit road, waited for Kenseth’s car to come around and threw his helmet at it. Afterwards, Stewart said, “I’m going to run over him every chance I’ve got from now until the end of the year.” The NASCAR world largely laughed it off as mere blowing off steam in a sport infused with danger, machismo, and occasional fistfights between crashed drivers. But there was no laughing Saturday as Stewart was involved in another confrontation, this time with fatal results.

In a dirt-track race in the Finger Lakes region of upstate New York, a bump by Stewart sent the car of 20-year-old Kevin Ward Jr. crashing into a wall. Ward got out of his car, walked toward the middle of the track and angrily pointed his finger at Stewart’s car. As Stewart passed, his car fishtailed, hitting and killing Ward. Local authorities say there is no evidence of criminal intent by Stewart, despite his history of tempestuous behavior. Even so, NASCAR should conduct its own investigation, and keep Stewart out of competition until its completion. And if Stewart’s road rage is found to have played a role in Ward’s death, Stewart should be banned from NASCAR competition for life.
No. There is no evidence of criminal wrong doing according to authorities. The guy never should have gotten out of his car and walked towards Stewart"s speeding car
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I say Yes, He's made threats before.
The context of his "threat" was racing, not running someone over. He was talking about running another guy, who is driving his car, down.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:31 PM
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He definitely shouldn't race for a while, if nothing else out of respect for Ward. If NASCAR can prove he intentionally pushed Ward's car into the wall, then they should at least suspend him for a while.

I couldn't watch the videos of the part of the race where Stewart runs over Ward.

There was an article where another race driver said Stewart intentionally fishtailed. He referred to it as "mudding" someone -- intentionally fishtailing and throttling the engine to make the tires spew rocks and dirt on the person.

He may not have had murder on his mind, but it's possible he did mean to mud Ward and misjudged it.

The driver of the car in front of Stewart said he saw Ward on the track, that he doubted Stewart didn't see him.
Yeah, I don't buy that. Who does that while going that fast?

Im sure Stewart saw the man. He was moving towards Stewart's car. Maybe Stewart tried to avoid a man moving towards his car and he jerked the wheel and fishtailed?
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