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08-26-2014, 08:39 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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More innuendo. What sin has he committed? Are the congregants not saved already? If not, how did they become unsaved?
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I think you are confusing two things. There doesn't have to be a specific sin committed for ultra cons to believe that saints should leave a church who is moving away from the legalism they hold so dear and believe is salvational.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-26-2014, 08:42 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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I think you are confusing two things. There doesn't have to be a specific sin committed for ultra cons to believe that saints should leave a church who is moving away from the legalism they hold so dear and believe is salvational.
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And I might add that some around here are perfect examples of what conservatives fear will happen to others when the gate is kicked open. jmho
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08-26-2014, 08:44 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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Give it a rest, the man has stated several times that he was not charging SP with moral failure. It's DOCTRINAL failure that Epley is posting about.
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It doesn't matter whether moral or doctrinal failure, Epley claimed if SP doesn't repent, he's condemned. And I'll give it a rest when Epley stops using innuendo suggesting a sin has been committed.
Rev. Epley:
I don't disagree with you much. In fact, this may be one of the first times I've taken issue with what you've posted. I apologize for any rudeness in my responses.
I ask you, because you continue even this morning to post with innuendo and ambiguity, why is SP condemned if he doesn't repent? Or yet, why does SP need to repent? What sin has he committed?
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08-26-2014, 08:45 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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I think you are confusing two things. There doesn't have to be a specific sin committed for ultra cons to believe that saints should leave a church who is moving away from the legalism they hold so dear and believe is salvational.
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Again, SE claimed SP is condemned unless he repents. Why the need for repentance unless sin has been committed?
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08-26-2014, 08:45 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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Again, SE claimed SP is condemned unless he repents. Why the need for repentance unless sin has been committed?
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If you are an ultra con moving away from the legalism is plenty to repent for!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-26-2014, 08:47 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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It doesn't matter whether moral or doctrinal failure, Epley claimed if SP doesn't repent, he's condemned. And I'll give it a rest when Epley stops using innuendo suggesting a sin has been committed.
Rev. Epley:
I don't disagree with you much. In fact, this may be one of the first times I've taken issue with what you've posted. I apologize for any rudeness in my responses.
I ask you, because you continue even this morning to post with innuendo and ambiguity, why is SP condemned if he doesn't repent? Or yet, why does SP need to repent? What sin has he committed?
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You are reading into what I am posting. Jewelry is a sin. Women wearing pants is a sin you get the drift.
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08-26-2014, 08:48 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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And I might add that some around here are perfect examples of what conservatives fear will happen to others when the gate is kicked open. jmho
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There you go.
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08-26-2014, 08:49 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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I think you are confusing two things. There doesn't have to be a specific sin committed for ultra cons to believe that saints should leave a church who is moving away from the legalism they hold so dear and believe is salvational.
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Not how I would have worded it but my sentiments exactly.
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08-26-2014, 08:49 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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If you are an ultra con moving away from the standards and doctrine is plenty to repent for!
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08-26-2014, 08:49 AM
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Re: Welcome Fellow Christians - Steve Pixler 8/17/
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You are reading into what I am posting. Jewelry is a sin. Women wearing pants is a sin you get the drift.
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Thank you. 
I will give it a rest now. 
BTW, while I don't agree with the jewelry or pants as sin issue, I respect your beliefs on it.
I respect a man who is clear on his convictions and states what he believes even if I don't agree. What I cannot stand is someone who cannot come right out and say what they believe.
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